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Marcellus 09-25-2011 07:56 PM

McCluster is better than Jones. I would rather see DMC and McClain than any Jones.

What's McCluster averaging 7ypc now? I know that won't last but shit. Better than Jones.

Hammock Parties 09-25-2011 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 7942994)
Can't wait for your McCluster highlight vid at the end of the season.

He has 0 highlight plays through three games.

Hammock Parties 09-25-2011 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7943002)
McCluster is better than Jones. I would rather see DMC and McClain than any Jones.

What's McCluster averaging 7ypc now? I know that won't last but shit. Better than Jones.

It's not hard to average 7 YPC when you get the ball on draws in passing situations and reverses.

Hammock Parties 09-25-2011 07:58 PM

At this point McCluster's ceiling is Derrick Blaylock, with the exception that he'll never score 4 TDs in a game.

Marcellus 09-25-2011 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7943004)
It's not hard to average 7 YPC when you get the ball on draws in passing situations and reverses.

I don't give a shit. Run McClain enough to keep em honest and run draws and reverses to McCluster. Just keep Jones and Battle off the field.

jd1020 09-25-2011 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7943004)
It's not hard to average 7 YPC when you get the ball on draws in passing situations and reverses.

Is that why we see Jones running for 1-2 yards on 3rd and 6?

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-25-2011 08:03 PM

You have to hope that McCluster's ceiling is Darren Sproles.

BossChief 09-25-2011 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7942945)
Here's what was telling about McCluster today:

He had ZERO touches in the last 14 minutes of the game.

Why? Because they are scared to death of him fumbling.

you are probably right on that.

They do have it isolate to the last 6" before he hits the ground as the time when he fumbles and he has worked specifically on that. They think its a technique issue.

I think the bigger reason they didnt want to give him the ball down the stretch is because they are trying to limit his workload to 10-12 touches per game and recognize his size as a reason that has to be closely monitored.

Who knows though :shrug:
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7943004)
It's not hard to average 7 YPC when you get the ball on draws in passing situations and reverses.

then the same can be said about Charles last year, too.

Through 3 games, him averaging such a high number is impressive.

You not wanting to post his ranking on PFF as a running back tells me that he is probably ranked in the top 5...

BossChief 09-25-2011 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7943030)
You have to hope that McCluster's ceiling is Darren Sproles.

That is easily the most valid comparison of a ceiling.

If we get Luck, a guy like Darren Sproles to go with the rest of the offensive weapons we have can be quite lethal.

Hammock Parties 09-25-2011 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7943032)
y
then the same can be said about Charles last year, too.

LMAO

No it can't, you idiot. That's literally 90 percent of McCluster's carries - draws and reverses.

Not comparable to Charles whatsoever.

Hammock Parties 09-25-2011 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7943030)
You have to hope that McCluster's ceiling is Darren Sproles.

It's not. He's not a good returner and he's not good at making people miss.

Messier 09-25-2011 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7943008)
At this point McCluster's ceiling is Derrick Blaylock, with the exception that he'll never score 4 TDs in a game.

I like McCluster. Are you mad because they used a 2nd round pick on him? I think he went a bit early, but I think he was going in the 2nd round to somebody. I think sometime this season he'll have a break out game, I know it's hard when Cassel is the QB, but I think he's quick and surprisingly tough.

Hammock Parties 09-25-2011 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 7943049)
Are you mad because they used a 2nd round pick on him? .

NO, NOT AT ALL

NJChiefsFan 09-25-2011 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7942945)
Here's what was telling about McCluster today:

He had ZERO touches in the last 14 minutes of the game.

Why? Because they are scared to death of him fumbling.

The most important play of the game was meant for him.

I do agree that it wasn't an accident Jones got the 3rd down draw to secure the FG, as stupid as that was.

I don't think McCluster can be Sproles, but I do think you are going to far to the extreme in how good he can be. He has had bad moments, but I think he can be a decent compliment to our offense when everyone is healthy.

Doesn't have to be either "he is awesome" or "he sucks".

BossChief 09-25-2011 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7943035)
LMAO

No it can't, you idiot. That's literally 90 percent of McCluster's carries - draws and reverses.

Not comparable to Charles whatsoever.

I bet at least 15% of Charles' carries last year were draws on third and long and he converted a shit ton of them.

I cant find a link showing exact numbers, but out of a single back formation he averaged 7.2 yards per carry last year and out of every other formation combined he only averaged 4.35

Obviously Im not gonna say more than 20% of those runs were draws, but I bet a lot of them were and that he averaged about 10 on them and that it effected his overall average quite a bit.


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