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FAX 11-09-2011 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8093805)
...or it could like he said...he wanted to go coach with his son because it had been a life long dream.
Or that.

FAX

FAX 11-09-2011 01:51 AM
Or this ...

Early in his NFL career, Haley is fetching coffee for Weis. Then, as the years pass, Weis fails miserably as a head coach and is fired from ND so he takes a job working for Haley. At first, it sounds like an okay idea, but eventually, Weis' ego freaks out on him and he simply can't handle being reminded of his utter failure so he convinces Cassel that throwing super high is the key to success in the league and splits town.

How about that?

FAX

chiefzilla1501 11-09-2011 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo (Post 8092246)
I have to agree FAX. If KC had a stud QB the entire team would be better on both sides of the ball. If KC had a stud Rush the passer DE and QB this team would contend for the bowl once everyone gets healthy. I'd also like to see a shut down Corner with Flowers matched against the number two receiver and Carr the Nickel with Arenas backing up.

This team is only two or three KEY players away from being damn good.
The Chiefs have more than enough pieces. You're never going to get everything perfect.

Their offensive line is better than New Orleans. Their RBs are better than New Orleans (were a HELL of a lot better last year). Their defense is a HELL of a lot better than New Orleans. Their receivers are better than New Orleans. New Orleans has better tight ends, but that only started happening this year. What I just said goes also for New England. I would argue that our talent isn't even that far off from Green Bay.

It's amazing what a great QB can do for this team.

chiefzilla1501 11-09-2011 07:04 AM
The playcalling fiasco... no excuse for that.

I always wondered if Haley would manage games differently with a different QB. Does he milk time at the end of first halves because of poor clock management, or does he just have that little faith in his QB to not make a pick-6? Did he take a ton of chances on 4th down in the past because he's arrogantly aggressive, or did he do that because he knew he couldn't win without a few lucky bounces? Is the offensive playcalling notoriously conservative? Or is it just because he's doing everything he can to take the ball out of Cassel's hands?

The Cardinals had a sound offensive gameplan. You wonder what Haley's game plan / game management looks like under a very good QB. I just don't think you can fire him until you know this.

Frosty 11-09-2011 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8093990)
Or this ...

Early in his NFL career, Haley is fetching coffee for Weis. Then, as the years pass, Weis fails miserably as a head coach and is fired from ND so he takes a job working for Haley. At first, it sounds like an okay idea, but eventually, Weis' ego freaks out on him and he simply can't handle being reminded of his utter failure so he convinces Cassel that throwing super high is the key to success in the league and splits town.

How about that?

FAX
This fits all of the evidence. I'm going with it.

FAX 11-09-2011 08:28 AM
Or maybe ...

Weis shows up early for work after a late night trying to get out of his pants. He's slightly hungover, extremely groggy and has missed second breakfast. Hunger strikes and strikes hard. In his semi-conscious state, Weis mistakenly eats Haley's commemorative Super Bowl football. When Haley finds out what has happened, he kicks Weis in the gut causing his gall bladder to explode. Weis is rushed to surgery. Meanwhile, Haley trades two Arrowhead season tickets to the surgeon in exchange for leaving a scar on Weis' belly that reads, "I'm a stupid fat bastard." in cursive script. After leaving the hospital it takes Weis several weeks before he can lift his belly sufficiently high to read the surgeon's handwriting at which point Weis gets all pissy and decides to leave.

How about that?

FAX

Chiefshrink 11-09-2011 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 8091169)
This is another one of those "well what the hell do you expect him to say" type of things.
BINGO:thumb:

milkman 11-09-2011 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 8091169)
This is another one of those "well what the hell do you expect him to say" type of things.
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Originally Posted by sportsshrink (Post 8094286)
BINGO:thumb:
Not really.

He doesn't simply endorse Haley, he elaborates on it to an extent.

That excludes it as a "Well, what the hell do you epect him to say" type of things.

Mr. Laz 11-09-2011 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8093710)
Once again for all you ****ing idiots who clearly don't have a job. If you have a boss who asks you to do somehting his way, you do it or get the **** out. Haley is the head coach. He's the boss.

If he expects his underling, Charlie Weis to so something his way, Charlie Weis does that thing Haley's way. If he couldn't do that, he needs to get the **** out.
and once again Milktard is such a asshat that he's not even discussion the same issue as everyone else.

Yes, the boss gets to decide what happens. Nobody is arguing that, you moron. I'll try and talk slow so your senile old ass can keep up.

The ... issue ... isn't ... about ... who ... had ... authority ... about ... the ... offense. It's ... about ... making ... the ... right ... decisions.

can you comprehend, you idiot,inbred POS?

Haley decided to fire gailey ... his decision. But was it the right one?

Haley and Weis couldn't co-exist so naturally Weis is the one that leaves. But is it the right decision.

Cassel isn't a great QB but he was clearly better under weis.

is Haley part of the problem or part of the solution?

watching the offense now suggest that Haley made the wrong decisions because the offense now looks like it's coached by the 3 stooges.


So the ultimate issue is about ... when we get a new/better quarterback, do we want an incompetent offensive coaching staff developing him?

oh, and can somebody hold milkman's hand and try to keep that ****ing fool on topic since he can't seem to stay focused about it.

aturnis 11-09-2011 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8095129)
and once again Milktard is such a asshat that he's not even discussion the same issue as everyone else.

Yes, the boss gets to decide what happens. Nobody is arguing that, you moron. I'll try and talk slow so your senile old ass can keep up.

The ... issue ... isn't ... about ... who ... had ... authority ... about ... the ... offense. It's ... about ... making ... the ... right ... decisions.

can you comprehend, you idiot,inbred POS?

Haley decided to fire gailey ... his decision. But was it the right one?

Haley and Weis couldn't co-exist so naturally Weis is the one that leaves. But is it the right decision.

Cassel isn't a great QB but he was clearly better under weis.

is Haley part of the problem or part of the solution?

watching the offense now suggest that Haley made the wrong decisions because the offense now looks like it's coached by the 3 stooges.


So the ultimate issue is about ... when we get a new/better quarterback, do we want an incompetent offensive coaching staff developing him?

oh, and can somebody hold milkman's hand and try to keep that ****ing fool on topic since he can't seem to stay focused about it.
You are a ****ing reeruned ****. Man you need your ass beat. Milk obviously was responding directly to the reeruned comments of Fitz and anyone else who is stupid enough to agree with the drivel he spews. The content on Fitz's post was about Haley running off quality OC's. Which isn't at all true, no matter how you look at it.

milkman 11-09-2011 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8095129)
and once again Milktard is such a asshat that he's not even discussion the same issue as everyone else.

Yes, the boss gets to decide what happens. Nobody is arguing that, you moron. I'll try and talk slow so your senile old ass can keep up.

The ... issue ... isn't ... about ... who ... had ... authority ... about ... the ... offense. It's ... about ... making ... the ... right ... decisions.

can you comprehend, you idiot,inbred POS?

Haley decided to fire gailey ... his decision. But was it the right one?

Haley and Weis couldn't co-exist so naturally Weis is the one that leaves. But is it the right decision.

Cassel isn't a great QB but he was clearly better under weis.

is Haley part of the problem or part of the solution?

watching the offense now suggest that Haley made the wrong decisions because the offense now looks like it's coached by the 3 stooges.


So the ultimate issue is about ... when we get a new/better quarterback, do we want an incompetent offensive coaching staff developing him?

oh, and can somebody hold milkman's hand and try to keep that ****ing fool on topic since he can't seem to stay focused about it.
Whether or not it was the right decision, you dumbass, it still comes down to one simple fact.

Todd Haley is the HC.

Chan Gailey and Charlie Weis both worked for Todd Haley.

I believe that it was a mistake to fire Gailey, and I think that dumbasses like you give Weis credit for something that is absolutely false specifically that he did anything that made Cassel look better.

The weak teams on the schedule did that.

I don't give a rat's ass that his useless ass is gone.

Bottom line, however, is that they both worked for Haley and it was their responsibillity to adapt to Haley.

Now, if you want to argue that Pioli should have fired Haley before he let Haley chase off either, that's an entirely different discussion.

I'm absolutely on topic.

You're just too ****ing stupid to recognize that.

ChiefPressure 12-12-2011 06:26 PM
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Titty Meat 12-12-2011 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8091330)
A bunch of you apparently see writing on the wall. I don't, I see a guy who will undoubtedly get an extension. Probably be our coach for some time. Thank God.
Heh

Extra Point 12-12-2011 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8095437)
I believe that it was a mistake to fire Gailey, and I think that dumbasses like you give Weis credit for something that is absolutely false specifically that he did anything that made Cassel look better.

The weak teams on the schedule did that.

I don't give a rat's ass that his useless ass is gone.

Bottom line, however, is that they both worked for Haley and it was their responsibillity to adapt to Haley.

Now, if you want to argue that Pioli should have fired Haley before he let Haley chase off either, that's an entirely different discussion.
In view of that, does Weis have enough juice in the scooter, to make the haul from Lawrence to Arrowhead?

htismaqe 12-12-2011 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8095437)
I believe that it was a mistake to fire Gailey, and I think that dumbasses like you give Weis credit for something that is absolutely false specifically that he did anything that made Cassel look better.
It was a mistake to expect Haley to work with Gailey in the first place. When you gut the staff, you GUT the staff. Don't keep the dingle berries around, wipe it clean...


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