ChiefsPlanet
Page 8 of 20 « First 4567 8 910111218 Last »
Show 80 post(s) from this thread on one page

ChiefsPlanet (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Nzoner's Game Room (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1)
-   -   Chiefs I've finally changed my mind about Todd Haley (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=252827)

Okie_Apparition 11-22-2011 09:55 AM
If Haley is the dead man walking, the media has played him out to be. There is no point getting personnel that fits his scheme. When the next HC may go in another direction with personnel needs.

Then again, he should have been canned already instead of wasting a year

Chiefs Pantalones 11-22-2011 09:56 AM
I just want this team wiped out, everyone including the head coach, except for the good players obviously. Pioli isn't going anywhere though. I have never wanted to give up on a regime so fast since the Herm days. And, sadly, that wasn't that long ago. One day we'll get it right.

Mr. Laz 11-22-2011 09:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8132364)
Weis' son is angling for a Graduate position which generally means coaching opportunities in the future. Weis himself said that's why he was leaving.

We both know about the personalities. But to say that Haley "ran him off" is speculation and that's it.
saying that Weis took a 5 million dollar pay cut to go work with his son is JUST as speculative ... if not more so.

This son stuff at florida is just something people say to try and make themselves feel better about Haley.

Mr. Laz 11-22-2011 09:56 AM
wow ... where have i heard all this stuff before?

htismaqe 11-22-2011 09:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 8132482)
I hated the Haley hire at the time. He's done some things to win me over.

However, like I said in the coaching thread I started a few weeks back, he appears to be in over his head as a HC. Perhaps with some quality veteran coordinators that are capable of guiding Haley, he can succeed right now.

I think the truly great coaches have gone over game time scenarios so many times on paper, in their head, and in practice that making the right decision becomes instinct. Taking last night's game as an example, the choice to not go for it on 4th and short in NE territory, followed by going for an onside kick. The guys that truly understand what they want to do know to choose that 4th down chance in lieu of attempting an onside that was clearly planned.

I wouldn't be surprised if Haley becomes a good HC somewhere down the line, but he doesn't have a HC mindset yet.
Once again you pretty well summed up how I feel about it.

lcarus 11-22-2011 09:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8132550)
wow ... where have i heard all this stuff before?
Chiefs Planet

htismaqe 11-22-2011 09:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8132549)
saying that Weis took a 5 million dollar pay cut to go work with his son is JUST as speculative ... if not more so.

This son stuff at florida is just something people say to try and make themselves feel better about Haley.
Except that Weis said that he was leaving to go be with his son. I guess the guy is a liar...

the Talking Can 11-22-2011 10:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8132561)
Except that Weis said that he was leaving to go be with his son. I guess the guy is a liar...
politicians do it all the time

"i'm leaving to spend more time with my family..."

kysirsoze 11-22-2011 10:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8132549)
saying that Weis took a 5 million dollar pay cut to go work with his son is JUST as speculative ... if not more so.

This son stuff at florida is just something people say to try and make themselves feel better about Haley.
Except for that's what he said multiple times. In fact he refuted the claim that his relationship with Haley was his reason for leaving. You can choose not to believe him but that's far more speculative than believing one of the few people who had any first hand knowledge of the situation.

Okie_Apparition 11-22-2011 10:04 AM
How come the mighty Weis made Croyle look even worse
The Baltimore Croyle(Haley) vs the San Diego Croyle(Weis) was quite a drop off

kysirsoze 11-22-2011 10:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8132565)
politicians do it all the time

"i'm leaving to spend more time with my family..."
And people choose to believe the more scandalous story all the time as well. There were never any credible sources cited that I saw to support the story of Weis leaving because of Haley, but people jumped on board with it as soon as the first hack writer spit it out.

Pioli hates Haley, too. Haven't you heard? That's why he's still the HC when most of the media thinks he should have been fired weeks ago.

Mr. Laz 11-22-2011 10:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 8132568)
Except for that's what he said multiple times. In fact he refuted the claim that his relationship with Haley was his reason for leaving. You can choose not to believe him but that's far more speculative than believing one of the few people who had any first hand knowledge of the situation.
what else is he going to say?

Is he going to tell every employer out there that he quit because he couldn't get along? Is he going to 'air dirty laundry' and Pioli and every other GM know that he can't keep his mouth shut about internal issues?

I bet you believe the 'dreaded vote of confidence' every time too.

keep defending your boy though ...

htismaqe 11-22-2011 10:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8132565)
politicians do it all the time

"i'm leaving to spend more time with my family..."
And people automatically jump to the opposite conclusion all the time too...

My point is NOT that Weis definitively left because he wanted to go to Florida.

It's that there's ZERO proof that Haley "ran him off".

Reality is that he left and we have no idea in the end why he did. It's ALL speculation.

kysirsoze 11-22-2011 10:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8132585)
what else is he going to say?

Is he going to tell every employer out there that he quit because he couldn't get along? Is he going to 'air dirty laundry' and Pioli and every other GM know that he can't keep his mouth shut about internal issues?

I bet you believe the 'dreaded vote of confidence' every time too.

keep defending your boy though ...
I'm not saying it's impossible. You said the story that everyone involved has told is more speculative than something thought up by a sports columnist. That's outrageous.

htismaqe 11-22-2011 10:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 8132590)
I'm not saying it's impossible. You said the story that everyone involved has told is more speculative than something thought up by a sports columnist. That's outrageous.
Haley ran him off. That's the only possible conclusion. Keep defending your boyfriend though!


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:32 PM.
Page 8 of 20 « First 4567 8 910111218 Last »
Show 80 post(s) from this thread on one page

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.