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whoman69 12-05-2011 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 8170868)
L.A. Chieffan is the least interesting person I know.

FYP

BoneKrusher 12-05-2011 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8171487)
I disagree completely. I think Pioli looks at the team with Palko and says that with the D playing like they are now, Cassel would be putting up more points and they'd be winning comfortably.

the Defense probably would give the effort we've seen vs the Steelers and the Bears if Cassel was playing. they know they have as much of a chance at winning with him as a snowball in hell.

Lzen 12-05-2011 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 8170473)
I know we're in the minority, but like you, when Palko goes back I don't expect the worst, which is unfortunately the case whenever I see Cassel drop back.

Granted, Palko is likely statistically worse than Cassel on things like interceptions, so I'm not sure why I feel differently about them. Interceptions aside, I think it's because I don't see Palko doing inexplicable things like throwing the ball 20 yards into the stands instead of looking at his second read.

Palko is an enigma. He looks decent in several areas and seems to be able to move the ball. But then he'll make some bone headed decision and its a turnover. Kinda like Grbac.

Chiefnj2 12-05-2011 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8171539)
the Defense probably would give the effort we've seen vs the Steelers and the Bears if Cassel was playing. they know they have as much of a chance at winning with him as a snowball in hell.

They didn't make the playoffs with him last year.

Coogs 12-05-2011 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 8171547)
Palko is an enigma. He looks decent in several areas and seems to be able to move the ball. But then he'll make some bone headed decision and its a turnover. Kinda like Grbac.

He is a journeyman QB. But he does a lot of good things. If you were expecting our backup QB to be Rodgers, Brees, or Brady... then yes you probably think he totally sucks, like many people here do.

And he really hasn't turned it over since early in the game against the Steelers where he had the 3 in 3 plays. The one at the end of the game you really can't fault anyone. Time was running short, and a play had to be made. That's just football.

BoneKrusher 12-05-2011 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8171655)
They didn't make the playoffs with him last year.

the Playoff season with cassel last year was tainted with a cupcake schedule, just look at it as if it didn't really happen.

L.A. Chieffan 12-05-2011 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8171536)
FYP

You know whoreman, you really need to get out of this slump. Maybe a lithium or a diet coke

Nightfyre 12-05-2011 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8171660)
And he really hasn't turned it over since early in the game against the Steelers where he had the 3 in 3 plays. The one at the end of the game you really can't fault anyone. Time was running short, and a play had to be made. That's just football.

Sure I can. That was a reeruned play. You have to protect the ball, especially on a game-winning drive. An incomplete pass there is far more acceptable than forcing it into pentuple coverage. Pumping off the safety and hitting Baldwin over the top would also have been better. Or throwing the ball out of bounds.

Deberg_1990 12-05-2011 11:08 AM

Yea, i enjoy watching him play too. Heres our 13 drives yesterday:


punt
punt
punt
punt
punt
Hail Mary TD
FG
punt
punt
punt
punt
punt
punt


Masterful!

Coogs 12-05-2011 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 8171765)
Sure I can. That was a reeruned play. You have to protect the ball, especially on a game-winning drive. An incomplete pass there is far more acceptable than forcing it into pentuple coverage. Pumping off the safety and hitting Baldwin over the top would also have been better. Or throwing the ball out of bounds.

We had 38 yards to go and 38 seconds left with no timeouts. It's doeable yes, but at the same time we were not talking Rodgers here. This is a journeyman QB in his 2nd career start against the Steelers defense. Plus his #1 WR apparently communicated something to him during the route, then proceeded to do something different. Hard to fault a journeyman QB with virtually no experience from throwing to his #1 WR with the game on the line.

Coogs 12-05-2011 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8171790)
Yea, i enjoy watching him play too. Heres our 13 drives yesterday:


punt
punt
punt
punt
punt
Hail Mary TD
FG
punt
punt
punt
punt
punt
punt


Masterful!

I guess I can enjoy a defensive game just as much as a 45-42 shootout. Now I really don't want to see 10-3 or so every week, but hey! :shrug:

Nightfyre 12-05-2011 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8171798)
We had 38 yards to go and 38 seconds left with no timeouts. It's doeable yes, but at the same time we were not talking Rodgers here. This is a journeyman QB in his 2nd career start against the Steelers defense. Plus his #1 WR apparently communicated something to him during the route, then proceeded to do something different. Hard to fault a journeyman QB with virtually no experience from throwing to his #1 WR with the game on the line.

1) IIRC, we still had a timeout.
2) Tyler Palko isn't some rookie. He's 28 and has been in and out of the nfl for several seasons.
3) You can speculate all you'd like on who miscommunicated what, but you don't know shit, so don't state it like its a fact.
4) And yes, I can blame Palko for that pass. It was awful.
5) Palko single-handedly LOST that game.
6) I'm not sure why you are white-knighting on Palko's behalf here. He has zero talent. He is not fun to watch. But hey, at least he can administer an offense.

Chiefnj2 12-05-2011 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8171809)
I guess I can enjoy a defensive game just as much as a 45-42 shootout. Now I really don't want to see 10-3 or so every week, but hey! :shrug:

There is a big difference between saying "I enjoy defensive games" and "I enjoy watching my offense punt 11 times".

Nightfyre 12-05-2011 11:18 AM

There is also a big difference between a defensive game and a game in which both offenses are horribly incompetent.

Coogs 12-05-2011 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 8171821)
1) IIRC, we still had a timeout.
2) Tyler Palko isn't some rookie. He's 28 and has been in and out of the nfl for several seasons.
3) You can speculate all you'd like on who miscommunicated what, but you don't know shit, so don't state it like its a fact.
4) And yes, I can blame Palko for that pass. It was awful.
5) Palko single-handedly LOST that game.
6) I'm not sure why you are white-knighting on Palko's behalf here. He has zero talent. He is not fun to watch. But hey, at least he can administer an offense.

You are correct on the first one.

As for the rest of it... damn dude!


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