Part of it was because we were facing an average defense.

Part of it was because the Packers were selling out against the run and Orton made them pay.

Part of it was because Orton was rarely pressured and when he was he took it like a man.

Part of it was because the offense controlled TOP and the defense weren't out there every 5 minutes.

Possibly. I know what I saw though.

I saw a QB who could read a D.
Who looked confident in the pocket.
Who went through his progressions quickly.
Who has a quicker release.
WHO LOOKED DOWNFIELD AND HIT OPEN RECEIVERS.

I agree. He looked like the best QB we've had under center in the last several seasons.

Except that they didn't. He had 2 middle runs, 2 offtackle runs (1 left, 1 right) and one toss play (I think it was a toss right?), all for a grand total of 2.78 yards per carry. In the running game, he wasn't any different than usual.

In the screen game, he absolutely was more effective and it was 100% because of Orton selling the action. Running a screen means allowing pass rushers to come to the QB in order to sell it - Cassel can't do it without panic. I've seen it up close and in person.

There is a lot of obtuseness in this thread.

1) The QB play was competent
2) The D we played is not very good when they don't cause turnovers

More or less. However, they've looked bad on O vs shittier Ds

Link?

Orton shows to be 10 x better than Cassel. And Orton sucks. Well actually he doesn't suck now that he's a Chief.

I heard McCarthy called Orton a "damned good" quarterback.

Do you just make this stuff up?

You mean the draw like these? During our previous 4 games?

Den @ KC
2nd quarter
1-10-KC 43 (2:13) (Shotgun) 22-D.McCluster left guard to KC 45 for 2 yards (55-D.Williams).

KC @ NE
1st quarter
3-7-KC 23 (14:24) (Shotgun) 22-D.McCluster right end to KC 29 for 6 yards (74-K.Love).
3rd quarter
1-10-NE 43 (5:28) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 22-D.McCluster up the middle to NE 41 for 2 yards (98-G.Warren).

Pit @ KC
3rd quarter
2-1-KC 43 (2:02) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 22-D.McCluster up the middle to KC 45 for 2 yards (99-B.Keisel).
4th quarter
1-10-PIT 30 (8:51) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 22-D.McCluster right end to PIT 30 for no gain (93-J.Worilds).

KC @ Chi
3rd quarter
3-4-CHI 12 (8:24) (Shotgun) 22-D.McCluster left tackle to CHI 5 for 7 yards (20-C.Steltz).
3-10-CHI 10 (7:02) (Shotgun) 22-D.McCluster left guard to CHI 3 for 7 yards (55-L.Briggs).
3-12-KC 22 (5:21) (Shotgun) 22-D.McCluster right end to KC 25 for 3 yards (90-J.Peppers).

I don't credit Muir for playcalling, the credit goes to a QB who checks down and actually puts the damn ball in the vicinity for the WR to catch it. In no way, shape, or form is Kyle Orton a franchise QB, but he's leaps and bounds better than Cassel or Palco. Next season we still need to draft a QB high in the draft if it's optional, sign Orton to a 2-3 year deal, and groom the two youngsters to lead this franchise for years to come.

I honestly think most of it was just Green Bay's defense.

They are that bad.

I would not expect the line to give Orton that much time the next two weeks. Especially in Denver.

Glad you brought that up!

How many times did Neckbeard call an audible?

At their 1-3 yard line, why the Hell didn't we run on all downs, into the A or B gap, with Battle? We can't pass in the red zone; there's not enough yardage, to do so.

Zone reads is something that Orton can do, that Cassel can't.

Cassel can't think into that; Orton can.

Orton ~ Gannon (I don't have a double squiggly key. Sorry)