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Chiefnj2 03-13-2012 11:05 AM

The way I see it is that Cassel will have 4 years in the Pioli system this year. Scott and Clark can only have so much patience. If Cassel sucks again this year, IMO, it would be hard for them to stick with him a 6th year. But, someone like Orton they could rationalize it away and turn 1 mediocre year into 3 years. Better chance of a change in QB - Cassel.

Brock 03-13-2012 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8448063)
The way I see it is that Cassel will have 4 years in the Pioli system this year. Scott and Clark can only have so much patience. If Cassel sucks again this year, IMO, it would be hard for them to stick with him a 6th year. But, someone like Orton they could rationalize it away and turn 1 mediocre year into 3 years. Better chance of a change in QB - Cassel.

The problem with that of course, is that I would have to watch Cassel for another year.

Chief Roundup 03-13-2012 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8448041)
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People are DESPERATELY trying to diminish Orton's ability because they spent 3 years doing so while he was in Denver.

No. He sucked when he was in Chicago too. He was better than Grossman but not much. If there is anything the Bears know it is a shitty QB and they got rid of him. Orton only really looked good when playing under McDaniels.

Dayze 03-13-2012 11:08 AM

the sooner I realize the Chiefs are perpetually screwed, the better.

Imon Yourside 03-13-2012 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8448064)
The problem with that of course, is that I would have to watch Cassel for another year.

In for tha Win!

Okie_Apparition 03-13-2012 11:10 AM

The team might be better off with Orton than Cassel
how could they still go out & play to the whistle 4 years in with shitty britches

patteeu 03-13-2012 11:13 AM

For those saying we should just forget about Manning and sign guys like Soliai now, I think you missed the point of the article. The point appeared to be that Soliai would be hesitant to sign with anyone until the Manning deal is decided because until then, several of his potential suitors would be on the sidelines and he wouldn't be able to maximize his market. All the Chiefs can do is make offers. They can't force people to sign.

dirk digler 03-13-2012 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8448050)
Orton's career numbers are almost IDENTICAL to Matt Cassel's.

He's not an upgrade, he's a different flavor of the same cheap ice cream.

I am not advocating for Orton but I believe he is a lot better than Cassel.

In your honest opinion when you watched Orton last year could you not tell how better he ran the offense than Cassel? One of the first things I noticed was how defenses played the Chiefs with Orton at QB compared to Cassel\Palko. They actually had to respect the pass for once.

reschief 03-13-2012 11:16 AM

Can't forget how good Orton looked against us in 2010 when he played for Denver . . .better than Cassel ever looked. . .

Chief Roundup 03-13-2012 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8448064)
The problem with that of course, is that I would have to watch Cassel for another year.

I would rather watch Cassel 1 more year than be stuck with Orton for 3 to 5 years. When we will be bitching about Orton sucking and all of his limitations and what a mistake it was to sign him because he is the very symbol of mediocrity.
I don't want us to make a knee jerk reaction like we have done in the past with the likes of Lew Bush or Carlton Gray. We can always make a lateral move next year if that is what is available.

Imon Yourside 03-13-2012 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 8448092)
I would rather watch Cassel 1 more year than be stuck with Orton for 3 to 5 years. When we will be bitching about Orton sucking and all of his limitations and what a mistake it was to sign him because he is the very symbol of mediocrity.
I don't want us to make a knee jerk reaction like we have done in the past with the likes of Lew Bush or Carlton Gray. We can always make a lateral move next year if that is what is available.

It's quite possible Orton could sign for backup money, Is anyone serious(around the league) about Orton as a starter?

the Talking Can 03-13-2012 11:23 AM

with washington out, and flynn and manning available, I think Orton is going to go relatively cheaply as the last viable starter of those mentioned....henne is below even that and is likely a backup at this point

The Franchise 03-13-2012 11:24 AM

Flynn will probably be fought over between Miami and Cleveland. The loser of that will more than likely target Tannehill or Weeden.

Chief Roundup 03-13-2012 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 8448104)
It's quite possible Orton could sign for backup money, Is anyone serious(around the league) about Orton as a starter?

Not sure exactly who but there are a lot of teams that need an upgrade at the position.
Orton has said he wants to be a starter. So it will take that not being an option anywhere else.

Imon Yourside 03-13-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 8448117)
Not sure exactly who but there are a lot of teams that need an upgrade at the position.
Orton has said he wants to be a starter. So it will take that not being an option anywhere else.

We could promise him competition and a possible starting job to get him for less money, just not sure who else would want to sign him to a big contract.


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