SWING AND A MISS

No, not a success. We let go the best QB on the team. Even the Winston signing can't have an impact greater than that. We downgraded QB and CB. We upgraded RT, and slightly upgraded RB/TE.

Good Moves
Boss > Becht or Pope
Hillis > T. Jones
Winston > Richardson

Step Back or Not addressed
Routt < Carr
Quinn = Palko (neither is realistic competition for a starting position)
NT and S depth/starter still not addressed

Very slight improvement, but not by much in the big picture.

No mention of losing Orton? Our best QB? Quinn doesn't replace Palko. He replaces Orton.

You are getting your panties in a bunch over Kyle Ortan.

He's a medicre QB that isn't going to take you to a SB.

Who gives a rat's ass if he gives you slightly better opportunity to possibly win a playoff game if he doesn't give you any better opportunity to win a SB?

Get a ****ing grip.

I'd prefer to see how it ends and how the holes that aren't filled in FA are addressed in the draft.

In short, I want the team improved. If the 53rd player on the roster is better than last year's 53rd, that is a good thing.

Given that as my measuring tool, I think Quinn, while not awesome is a better QB than Tyler Palko....Winston is Ruth's Chris vs Sizzler that we had at RT last year, The white lightening RB is better than a washed up Thomas Jones if he's taking his crazy medicine, Boss is an upgrade over Pope, Route isn't probably as skilled as Carr but is faster and probably a suitable #2 corner.....so in short, I don't hate what I see at all. It's working on being a successful FA period.

Carr is not better than Routt. Not by 4 mil a season. I like carr but hes about to find out what matching up against #1 receiver for an entire season is like.

Umm...isn't that the point of this thread? I may not think Orton is a Superbowl-caliber quarterback, but he's better than any of the other ones we had on this team. So if I'm judging this offseason so far it's the biggest screw up that's been made. Keeping him doesn't make us great, but letting him walk absolutely makes us worse.

At the end of the day, I don't give a rat's ass who you bring in at QB if he isn't a guy that can lead you to the SB.

Ortan isn't that guy.
Quinn isn't that guy.
Cassel isn't that guy.

Until you repalce Cassel with a guy that can win you a SB, then you're just replacing shit with shit.

Who the **** is so stupid that they care about getting new shit to replace old shit?

Oh and Winston at 6 mil is a ****ING BARGAIN.

pioli is mind****ing people right now

no it doesnt. Kyle Orton is a piece of shit loser backup. Theres about 50 other dudes than can do his job. Get over it.

Orton was a FA and didn't want to be here. Can't do anything about that.

I don't necessarily call that a fail. I mean if you paid him a ton of money would he stay? Probably, money talks. But that would be a very stupid decision, we're talking about Kyle Orton here. That's how bad our QB situation is here in KC.

This team addressed a huge hole at RT, and replaced an ineffective RB and TE.

Kyle Ortan, with this roster, might win a game that Cassel would lose.

Big ****ing deal.

We are actually crying about losing out on a medicre QB?

Seriously?

Because in Orton, you get a few things. #1 - the assurance that the Chiefs are no longer married to Cassel. #2 - in future years, you get a cheap backup. Do you realize that beyond 2012, Orton's contract is $1-2M? That's chump change. #3 - better QB play. #4 - Yes, I do believe Orton can win us a playoff game, even if we can't make the Super Bowl. And this organization badly, badly needs to get that chip off their shoulder.

Matt Cassel has to be cut. His contract is reasonable this year, but there is no ****ing way he should be paid $9M in 2013. All we're doing right now is providing superior weapons for Cassel to look good to the Chiefs, when in fact it's the supporting cast that's going to win games for him.

Add in the fact that with Routt, we have a ton of cap space and we chose to go with a inferior 29 year old over a 26 year old. And it's not like we saved a ton of money either.

If Catt Massel is the starter, we has failed.