Well, you have to look at what he was given. This team had zero bench depth and over half of our starters aren't even in the league anymore. They were that bad. He took over that roster and actually rounded it out quite nicely, and he did it without spending very much money. You don't have to bring in a ton of superstars to build a good roster.

Again, he has built a mostly good team and sabotaged it with unbelievably arrogant decisions around the coaching and the quarterback. Behind a good coach and a good QB, this team is very good. Which is a lot more than you can say for the team we had in 2009.

Jury is still out. None of his picks have really turned into anything special... yet! A couple do show promise, but from 4 years of draft picks you would hope more than a couple would stand out. Best players are still arguably holdovers from the previous regime.

yup

You have noticed we are getting our asses handed to us in each of the 4 games this season. Down by 24, 32, 18 (Still not sure how we managed to beat the Saints), and 21. I'd like to think we have a good roster outside of Cassel... but to be honest I am not real sure.

Bullshit.

The Chiefs passed up massive talent in favor of gadget players like McCluster and Arenas, oft-injured players like Moeaki (over Gronk, Graham and Hernandez) and his 2009 draft was a ****ing abortion.

You're clueless.

The jury is NOT out.

McCluster, Arena and Moeaki were all bad selections. The 2009 draft was pathetic. 2011, outside of Houston and a rarely used Bailey has been just as bad as 2009. And 2012's draft has failed to yield any sort of game changer.

Pioli has sucked ass. You'd think there would be an abundance of talent on this roster, especially given that he's selected 3rd, 5th and 11th three drafts and in every round, but he hasn't done dick.

He blows.

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No...

He has been an above average drafter.

His fatal flaw was that he didn't think he would need to draft a quarterback as part of that plan.

No, he hasn't.

2009 was utterly worthless. In 2010, while he got lucky that Berry was sitting there, he passed on Daryl Washington, Sean Lee, Lindval Joseph, Jimmy Graham, Rob Gronkowski, Aaron Hernandez and more.

2011 doesn't look much better. While Houston was a steal in the third, Baldwin's been invisible, Hudson's out with a broken leg and didn't look that good this year, Jalil Brown is a dope, so on and so forth.

He's been maybe average at best but IMO, far less than average. And who the **** pays a guy $5 million per to be average?

I was trying to be kind.

That's the key, right there.

We've had pretty high selections each year and we've picked like we're playing blind craps. When you look at the "draft" quality of our defensive front 7, we should be dominating ... not domino-ing.

FAX

Had Pioli taken Washington and Joseph (let alone, offensive gems like Hernandez or Graham), this defense would be much further along. Instead, we're stuck with a tiny receiver that makes 3 yard catches and a returner.

If Pioli was hitting on draft picks we wouldn't get our ass kicked every week. I'd classify this as a self evident fact.

Umm Sanchez was available on the clock when we picked in 2009. No need to trade and Cassel crippled the team by taking away a second round choice that could have been used on somebody useful.

We can always find better picks when we look back at a draft and have the benefit of hindsight.

I can remember all too well the conversations on this board pleading for the likes of Sanchez, Clausen, Aaron Curry, Jason Smith, Sergio Kindle, Eugene Monroe, etc. etc. They all were busts (except for Sanchez who will be a back up in a year or two and out of the league in five years, like Cassel). You may have supported some of those potential picks or similar busts if you are honest.

It is easy to seem like a genius when you can go back in time knowing what you do now and point out who was available at the pick. I'm trying to be fair, which is not a popular position to be in on CP, at times.