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Hootie 03-18-2013 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9512016)
If Alex Smith throws 27 TDs in one regular season with the Chiefs, I'll leave forever!

but Cassel had a negative PFF rating that year

Smith was the 8th best PFF QB in 2011

...

you can't spray that shit around as Gospel and then turn on it when it doesn't paint the picture you want it to paint

hypocrite

Hootie 03-18-2013 08:17 PM

Chiefs QB's in 16 games this year were like -25 (or maybe worse)?
Alex Smith in 8 games was +8 in 2012 and +17.5 in 2011

so lets just say he got to +15 this year...

That's a +40 differential between our QB's...

which is higher than what Russell Wilson gave to the Seahawks as the #5 rated PFF QB

INTERESTING

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-18-2013 08:19 PM

LET'S GET BEHIND HIM!









And push him off the Broadway Bridge...
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Hootie 03-18-2013 08:20 PM

"ROR...the wittiest poster on ChiefsPlanet!!!!"

-said no one ever

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-18-2013 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9512108)
I take him over Manziel and Glennon every ****ing time.
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You're a god Damn moron. Have you EVER watched Manziel play a game ?

Hammock Parties 03-18-2013 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9512144)
Why does PFF grade Alex Smith so much better, Clay?

Because he never takes risks with the ball.

He throws the ball down the field less than Cassel.

Amazing, isn't it?

SAUTO 03-18-2013 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 9512210)
You're a god Damn moron. Have you EVER watched Manziel play a game ?

**** manziel
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Ceej 03-18-2013 08:25 PM

A couple of extra picks, eh?

We should definitely target our LSoTF - long snapper on the future.

TimeForWasp 03-18-2013 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9511916)
Sean Smith will never be as good as Brandon Carr was here.

We need to hear something positive from you. Damn it!

Hootie 03-18-2013 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9512212)
Because he never takes risks with the ball.

He throws the ball down the field less than Cassel.

Amazing, isn't it?

so then PFF is very flawed when grading QB's because shouldn't such an amazing tool take such a glaring weakness by a QB into account?

That settles it. PFF is a useless grading tool. Time to throw out your bible and get a new one Clay.

ChiliConCarnage 03-18-2013 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9512144)
Why does PFF grade Alex Smith so much better, Clay?

Having it both ways, are we?

Do they? I can't see their scores but the summation on both guys seems about the same. I mean if you're comparing Matt Cassel on a functional team to Alex Smiths time on a functional team and not the dumpster fire he had to deal with early on.

2010 Cassel assesment
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Of all quarterbacks who attempted 30 or more deep passes (and there were 31 quarterbacks who did so), Manning and Flacco finished in the bottom ten in completion percentage. Still it could be worse for both of them. They could be Matt Cassel.

The limited Chief struggled big time on his deep balls, completing just 14 of 57 for the worst percentage in the league. That beat out players like Alex Smith (25%), Chad Henne (25%)
2012 Smith trade wrap-up
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The Harbaugh Years (2011-2012): The Not So Good

While Smith’s stats above took a major uptick starting in 2011, there were still some red flags. While his 70.2 completion percentage last season was impressive, it also showed his unwillingness to take chances and throw the ball downfield. His average depth of target of only 8 yards was the fourth-lowest of all quarterbacks and only 8.7 percent of Smith’s passes traveled 20+ yards downfield in 2012. Among quarterbacks who started at least half their games, only Christian Ponder had a lower percentage.

Smith also led the NFL in 2011 by taking 44 sacks, and was sacked 24 times in nine starts in 2012 before being replaced by Kaepernick. Smith was sacked on one third of his pressures in 2012, which led the league by a wide margin.
They seem a lot like the same guy. On a good team where they aren't required to do a ton they can be effective at protecting the football and game managing for you. Is Alex Smith a bit better? Sure, maybe, but that doesn't make me feel great. At least we have Reid

The Bad Guy 03-18-2013 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9512162)
TBG is KC in on any ILBs? Dansby or Scott?

Haven't heard anything.

Although Scott wouldn't surprise me as a later pickup for cheap.

But I think he's a huge asshole so I don't want him here.

philfree 03-18-2013 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9512022)
I agree. Smith is a starter though.

Exactly.

I was looking at Alex's career and since coming back from his injury in 2010 the last month of that season up until he was injured in 2012 and not including that game. Alex played 30 games including the playoffs and over that span his QB rating of 96.5. So looking at his most recent history Alex isn't bad at all. ( I was pissed about the trade when I heard so am I rationalizing the move? Maybe a little.) 31/11 Tds to ints. One TD per game. When he had his best full year in 2011 he followed it up by playing even better in 2012 until his injury and then being benched for Kapernick.

That's a pretty good stretch for a game manager type and probably what we can expect from Alex Smith.

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-18-2013 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9512219)
**** manziel
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If Manziel was our QB this year we'd be contenders , and he's a freshman.


You're just dumb as proven.

Hootie 03-18-2013 08:31 PM

this defense needs an asshole on the team...a vet to fire some of these uber talented young guys up...I would be totally fine with a 2 down Bart Scott for a minimal contract.


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