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Snapplez 09-24-2013 06:38 PM
Jamaal's td against the eagles was all him and Sherman. Fisher got lucky that Barwin chose the wrong hole cause he would've gotten blown out of the play. Charles takes a quick instep to cut behind Fisher, Barwin reads it and reacts to make the tackle, and Charles immediately cuts back outside of Sherman to get the td. Fisher didn't do shit.

RealSNR 09-24-2013 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Snapplez (Post 10016404)
Jamaal's td against the eagles was all him and Sherman. Fisher got lucky that Barwin chose the wrong hole cause he would've gotten blown out of the play. Charles takes a quick instep to cut behind Fisher, Barwin reads it and reacts to make the tackle, and Charles immediately cuts back outside of Sherman to get the td. Fisher didn't do shit.
And there's absolutely no way that Fisher is thinking, "Don't care! Results are all that matters! 3-0, bitches! I'm awesome!"

Some fans need to think a little bit more like Fisher.

ReynardMuldrake 09-24-2013 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10016141)
This is absolutely false.

It's the inexperience of Allen, Hudson and Fisher along with technique and chemistry issues.

This line will get better over the course of the season but it has absolutely nothing to do with conditioning.
Why did Albert look so lost out there? Never seen him draw that many penalties. The entire O-line looked totally unprepared.

ReynardMuldrake 09-24-2013 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10016249)
We all knew they weren't going to take a QB. And I know it's early in Fisher's career and he had an injured finger, blah, blah, blah.

But I'd be remiss to mention that I'd be more comfortable with John Dorsey had he identified a better football player, out of the gates, than Fisher.

I (still) believe that a first round pick, especially the #1 overall, should contribute positively from Day One. From my POV, Fisher as failed to do so but guys like Richardson, Vacarro, Lotuleili and Hopkins have been difference makers immediately.

Dorsey's done a very good job of bringing in complimentary players in free agency but his draft record, to date, is poor.

Let's just hope that's not a harbinger of things to come.
It's unrealistic to expect a rookie who has never played the position before to have it all figured out by snap one. It takes time.

BossChief 09-24-2013 07:24 PM
Can you imagine what Von Miller is gonna do to Eric Fisher?

Might break Derrick Thomas' single game sack record.

MahiMike 09-24-2013 07:25 PM
[QUOTE=DaneMcCloud;10016141
This line will get better over the course of the season but it has absolutely nothing to do with conditioning.[/QUOTE]

I agree. We're winning games in the 4th qtr due to conditioning.

BossChief 09-24-2013 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake (Post 10016480)
It's unrealistic to expect a rookie who has never played the position before to have it all figured out by snap one. It takes time.
That's a bullshit cop out.

Eric Fisher did play right tackle in college...one of his "positives" was that he could supposedly play either side.

ReynardMuldrake 09-24-2013 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 10016502)
I agree. We're winning games in the 4th qtr due to conditioning.
It's a fair point.

ChiefsCountry 09-24-2013 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10016249)
I (still) believe that a first round pick, especially the #1 overall, should contribute positively from Day One.
I can live with a quarterback sitting and learning but any other on the position field better play from day one.

DaneMcCloud 09-24-2013 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10016525)
I can live with a quarterback sitting and learning but any other on the position field better play from day one.
There is no excuse for a guy drafted 1.1 in 2013 to sit, IMO.

If anyone can tell me that the Chiefs would not be better off with Hopkins, Richardson, Lotuleili or Vaccaro, I would like to hear from them.

DaneMcCloud 09-24-2013 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10016525)
I can live with a quarterback sitting and learning but any other on the position field better play from day one.
To that end, do you think Manziel will sit next year? Boyd? Bridgewater?

I don't. If I were a season ticket holder, I'd demand those guys start from day one.

Ragged Robin 09-24-2013 08:04 PM
I would hope that he's determined to play better. He's been comically abysmal especially in that last game.

Mr. Laz 09-24-2013 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10016382)
If Geno Smith or EJ Manuel are even simply above average QBs for 10 years, the Fisher pick is brutally bad, provided Alex Smith checkdowns his way into playoff losses.
So now you're for 'simply above average' at Quarterback?

I thought the idea was elite or nothing so you didn't end up 8-8?


you're so full of shit

ReynardMuldrake 09-24-2013 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10016506)
That's a bullshit cop out.

Eric Fisher did play right tackle in college...one of his "positives" was that he could supposedly play either side.
I swear I remember reading somewhere that Fisher had never played RT before. If it's true that he has, that's pretty disappointing.

Chiefshrink 09-24-2013 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10015647)
Oline has just been weak ... the entire thing

fisher has played like a rookie

Albert had like 3 penalties last game iirc

interior guys have been pushed around all over
Yep and as bad as the Giants have played anybody who thinks we will push the Giants D line around is just flat out naive.


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