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hometeam 11-15-2013 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 10189752)
Look man, I'm sorry to hear you had a rough childhood. That sucks.

But this is not a parallel. Different people respond differently to different stimuli. Simply put, things affect people differently.

I wholeheartedly agree.

That does not change the fact that some people can hang, and some people cannot.

He cannot hang.

KCUnited 11-15-2013 01:11 PM

Glen Coffee is second guessing his strategy.

Frazod 11-15-2013 01:18 PM

Let's see...

A former soldier who killed people in hand-to-hand combat and saw several close friends die in horrible ways.

A teenager who was physically and emotionally abused from early childhood.

A woman who was stalked and raped by her ex-husband.

A multimillionaire celebrity athlete who got yelled at in a locker room.

One of these things is not like the others.

ThaVirus 11-15-2013 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10189774)
Well, I couldn't disagree more when it comes to healthcare professionals.

If you could give me a specific instance, I'd be more than willing to listen. But I have no less than a dozen close friends (and parents of friends) that are doctors and therapists that would scoff at your assertion.

I'm sure you do and I am by no means claiming that I know for a fact the motivations of each and every health care professional individually.

It's moreso the system than it is the people that are in it, if you feel what I'm saying. Big business, corporations- all that jazz.

|Zach| 11-15-2013 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 10189785)
I wholeheartedly agree.

That does not change the fact that some people can hang, and some people cannot.

He cannot hang.

Eh, whatever...having the discipline and drive to make it to the big league at all is incredibly impressive. Even though some events have put him in a situation.

Donger 11-15-2013 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10189682)
His post asserts that earning millions of dollars should erase any and all trauma, real or imagined, that this man is suffering.

Oh, I thought you were referring to this part:

95% of the world has lived a more ****ed up life, and they get along just fine.

DaneMcCloud 11-15-2013 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10189806)
I'm sure you do and I am by no means claiming that I know for a fact the motivations of each and every health care professional individually.

It's moreso the system than it is the people that are in it, if you feel what I'm saying. Big business, corporations- all that jazz.

There's a big difference between professional doctors, therapists, etc. and Big Pharma.

For example, one of my neighbors is a clinical psychologist that also happens to be a USC professor. He has children my children's age and we've become friends over the years. Long story short, his objective for teaching is this: Medicate as a last resort.

Doctors truly have to want to help other people. They can't just do it for the money because it's not an easy job. With anything in life, to be successful, you must have passion. Without it, you'll fail.

Rausch 11-15-2013 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by durtyrute (Post 10189756)
All it takes is one story to change everyone's beliefs.

Good PR is good...

Marcellus 11-15-2013 01:24 PM

Peyton Manning will be in the room next to him Monday ****ing morning!

nychief 11-15-2013 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 10189805)
Let's see...

A former soldier who killed people in hand-to-hand combat and saw several close friends die in horrible ways.

A teenager who was physically and emotionally abused from early childhood.

A woman who was stalked and raped by her ex-husband.

A multimillionaire celebrity athlete who got yelled at in a locker room.

One of these things is not like the others.



I get your point, but every mind is different - trauma - any type - can manifest itself in numerous ways. The idea that this well bred and educated man is somehow doing this for money - some of which is guaranteed anyway - is sorta silly.

ThaVirus 11-15-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10189821)
There's a big difference between professional doctors, therapists, etc. and Big Pharma.

For example, one of my neighbors is a clinical psychologist that also happens to be a USC professor. He has children my children's age and we've become friends over the years. Long story short, his objective for teaching is this: Medicate as a last resort.

Doctors truly have to want to help other people. They can't just do it for the money because it's not an easy job. With anything in life, to be successful, you must have passion. Without it, you'll fail.

Very true and I'm thankful for the bolded part.

Donger 11-15-2013 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10189754)
So, what's the bottom line? What, exactly, are you asserting?

You seem to be of the opinion that ALL doctors are, well, kind of like Frankie's mom.

BIG_DADDY 11-15-2013 01:46 PM

Future author? How to make countless millions and never have to work by Jonathan Martin and his mom.

saphojunkie 11-15-2013 01:47 PM

I would think that soldiers, so many of whom suffered through undiagnosed PTSD for years because people back home thought that "winning the war" and "surviving" were cause for celebration and not pain, would be slightly more understanding of the foggy terrain of the human mind. None of us know the inside of a person's head, and the simple "don't be a bitch" response is not only unfair, it is unhealthy and dangerous.

The fact is, pain is pain. Trauma is trauma. It doesn't matter how it happens or why, the effect is still the same. If I go to war and another guy goes to the office, our minds and our hearts can't tell the difference between those environments. So, outsiders might consider my pain "valid" and his "pussified," but the truth is they might take equal tolls on our nervous systems.

At this point in my life, I am more inclined to not judge anyone else's experiences. **** you for judging mine, so **** me for judging yours.

On a more specific note, mixed race can be even more difficult than it seems, as sometimes you aren't ever really accepted by either. I know of one very close contact who lived through that and it put her into a psychiatric ward.

Skyy God 11-15-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by demonhero (Post 10189777)
↑this.

Overweight fatass cried wolf, because other overweight fatass called him out.

Inability to detect sarcasm can be a sign of brain injury. Seek medical attention. ;)


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