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Jakemall 02-28-2014 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10459104)
Not sure if any of you guys have read this article or if it's Q but:



Seems like Dorsey is trying his hand at the NfL's version of moneyball.

If it works, awesome.

htismaqe 02-28-2014 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 10459191)
If it works, awesome.

If it doesn't work, it's just being cheap.

OldSchool 02-28-2014 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10459550)
If it doesn't work, it's just being cheap.

It's more about trying to maximize your resources vs pinching your pennies.

htismaqe 03-01-2014 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10459565)
It's more about trying to maximize your resources vs pinching your pennies.

It was about maximizing resources in an economic model where some teams are limited financially and others aren't.

Football has revenue sharing and a salary cap. "Moneyball" is a novel concept but that's about it.

Jakemall 03-01-2014 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10461023)
It was about maximizing resources in an economic model where some teams are limited financially and others aren't.

Football has revenue sharing and a salary cap. "Moneyball" is a novel concept but that's about it.

You can still play the same game and adjust it for your budget. Again like Htis said, it is about Maximizing resources.

kcbubb 03-03-2014 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 10449174)
my favorite Wr for our first pick at this point would be Jordan Matthews. unmatched production and great speed for his size. he has superstar potential as a number 1 WR. liked cook's production, but lets be honest, he doesn't catch anywhere near that amount of balls in the sec. I like him as much as beckham but I feel they're both pretty limited to the the slot, or can play #2 with a true #1 wide out on the opposite side. Matthews reminds me of his cousin jerry rice. he might not be the flashiest Wr but he produces game in and game out, year in and year out.

This. Listen to the interview from 11/21 on the Jim Rome show. 2/14 is good too.

http://jimrome.com/2014/02/14/jordan-matthews/

Matthews' attitude is extremely rare for a WR. He is a winner. He's a big athlete too. 6'3" 212 lbs and a 4.46 40. Set all the SEC receiving records. GREAT HANDS!

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/...ews?id=2543500

xztop123 03-03-2014 06:39 PM

Brandin Cooks set several combine records for quickness at 190 lbs. (meaning hes timing quicker than the midget 170 guys like Mccluster, Tavon Austin, Dri Archer) and he's doing at 20 + pounds heavier.

Freak of nature + I think the first or second best WR stats in NCAA? print please

OldSchool 03-03-2014 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 10464928)
Brandin Cooks set several combine records for quickness at 190 lbs. (meaning hes timing quicker than the midget 170 guys like Mccluster, Tavon Austin, Dri Archer) and he's doing at 20 + pounds heavier.

Freak of nature + I think the first or second best WR stats in NCAA? print please

That's why he's going to the Jets to be their slot guy.

Jakemall 03-03-2014 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10461023)
It was about maximizing resources in an economic model where some teams are limited financially and others aren't.

Football has revenue sharing and a salary cap. "Moneyball" is a novel concept but that's about it.

What shouldn't be lost here is that another team with money took the moneyball concept and applied it to their budget and had fantastic results.

htismaqe 03-04-2014 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 10465448)
What shouldn't be lost here is that another team with money took the moneyball concept and applied it to their budget and had fantastic results.

Then it's not Money Ball anymore, is it?

jonzie04 03-04-2014 01:01 PM

[QUOTE=kcbubb;10464115]This. Listen to the interview from 11/21 on the Jim Rome show. 2/14 is good too.



Matthews' attitude is extremely rare for a WR. He is a winner. He's a big athlete too. 6'3" 212 lbs and a 4.46 40. Set all the SEC receiving records. GREAT HANDS!



a lot of people say all of the right things, and most of them come off a bit rehearsed to me in interviews, but I can tell he's a guy that means what he says, and practices what he preaches. I can't wait to see how his career goes. hopefully its in a red or white uni. thanks for sharing!

Jakemall 03-04-2014 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10465685)
Then it's not Money Ball anymore, is it?

It is because it is still the use of sabermetrics to determine a player's value as opposed to the traditional items. It is just a better tool...but when you put more money into it works even better.

Many teams do it now which reduced the advantage the As had.

OldSchool 03-04-2014 04:14 PM

[QUOTE=jonzie04;10466363]
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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 10464115)
This. Listen to the interview from 11/21 on the Jim Rome show. 2/14 is good too.



Matthews' attitude is extremely rare for a WR. He is a winner. He's a big athlete too. 6'3" 212 lbs and a 4.46 40. Set all the SEC receiving records. GREAT HANDS!



a lot of people say all of the right things, and most of them come off a bit rehearsed to me in interviews, but I can tell he's a guy that means what he says, and practices what he preaches. I can't wait to see how his career goes. hopefully its in a red or white uni. thanks for sharing!

Yup. He and Carr worked together after practice at the Senior Bowl on endzone routes. They got a couple of other guys to join in later as well.

Jakemall 03-05-2014 08:21 PM

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cf...metric-allstar


I really like Moncrief. I hope he ends up with either the 9ers or the Chiefs. Mathews is another one of my draft crushes.

OldSchool 03-05-2014 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 10468861)
http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cf...metric-allstar


I really like Moncrief. I hope he ends up with either the 9ers or the Chiefs. Mathews is another one of my draft crushes.

I think that after the combine and pro day that he had, someone is going to pull the trigger on Moncreif before he reaches our 3rd pick.


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