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The Franchise 03-11-2014 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10479697)
This happened a few years ago with Wade Smith. He was a FA, everyone knew he was a decent starter and he walked to Houston. Rest is history. Schwartz is kind of similar to Wade, journeyman, play multiple positions, etc

What bugs me the most is that you can't even play it off as them getting rid of a Pioli guy. Albert and Asamoah....I can understand. Maybe you don't think they fit what you're trying to do.....or maybe you just want them gone. But you ****ing signed him last year on a 1 year deal....and then he performed for you. Logical thing to do? Sign him. Nope....let's let him go. We now have 1 starting OG on this roster unless you plan on moving Hudson and then starting Kush at C. But guess what....Hudson's contract is up after next season.

OldSchool 03-11-2014 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10479707)
What bugs me the most is that you can't even play it off as them getting rid of a Pioli guy. Albert and Asamoah....I can understand. Maybe you don't think they fit what you're trying to do.....or maybe you just want them gone. But you ****ing signed him last year on a 1 year deal....and then he performed for you. Logical thing to do? Sign him. Nope....let's let him go. We now have 1 starting OG on this roster unless you plan on moving Hudson and then starting Kush at C. But guess what....Hudson's contract is up after next season.

Came down to a matter of money. Schwartz has never made a lot of money anywhere and has hopped around the league on short-term contracts. We weren't going to pay him as much as the next guy so I don't blame him for leaving. I'm sure that Dorsey and Reid wanted him back, just not at the price that others were willing and, more importantly, able to pay for.

htismaqe 03-11-2014 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10479689)
Zach Martin.:hmmm:

:holdman:

mcaj22 03-11-2014 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10479707)
What bugs me the most is that you can't even play it off as them getting rid of a Pioli guy. Albert and Asamoah....I can understand. Maybe you don't think they fit what you're trying to do.....or maybe you just want them gone. But you ****ing signed him last year on a 1 year deal....and then he performed for you. Logical thing to do? Sign him. Nope....let's let him go. We now have 1 starting OG on this roster unless you plan on moving Hudson and then starting Kush at C. But guess what....Hudson's contract is up after next season.

Yea I dont understand the 1 year stop gap/band aid for the sake of a bigger hole in the offseason.

And like you said next offseason they are going to be in a worse position and will have to take a look at cutting some of the veterans with those cap eating contracts.

The Franchise 03-11-2014 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10479720)
:holdman:

The thought of it makes me want to vomit.

kcchiefsus 03-11-2014 09:39 AM

I'd like to know what their plan is on the OL. We need at least 1 new starter and we have no depth to speak of. Even worse, the starters we still have are all average at best or borderline suck. This will probably be one of the league's worst OL next season.

The Franchise 03-11-2014 09:41 AM

As it is right now, without the draft, the only thing they can really do is roll....

Stephenson - Allen - Kush - Hudson - Fisher.

Fisher and Stephenson are dependent based on TC but the intelligence they're showing right now means that Fisher has already been handed the LT job.

WhawhaWhat 03-11-2014 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 10479737)
I'd like to know what their plan is on the OL. We need at least 1 new starter and we have no depth to speak of. Even worse, the starters we still have are all average at best or borderline suck. This will probably be one of the league's worst OL next season.

6 WRs, 3 OL. 1 step drop and throw.

mcaj22 03-11-2014 09:43 AM

we will actually have three new full time starters, our bookends will be their first full season starting at LT and RT and not just doing spot duty. And a new RG (please not a first round pick). The only constants are Jeff Allen and Rodney Hudson

doesnt sound so hot on paper when Jeff Allen is your most tenured veteran on your oline lol

RunKC 03-11-2014 09:46 AM

Schwartz isn't getting starting money. He's getting more than that. He's going to get way more money than he's worth.


Just my opinion, but I think Dorsey is very comfortable with Kush taking over and starting. He looked very good in the SD game.

htismaqe 03-11-2014 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10479730)
The thought of it makes me want to vomit.

Better stock up on Dramamine.

The Franchise 03-11-2014 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10479762)
Schwartz isn't getting starting money. He's getting more than that. He's going to get way more money than he's worth.


Just my opinion, but I think Dorsey is very comfortable with Kush taking over and starting. He looked very good in the SD game.

He's getting starting money in 2014. The cap increased.....and it will keep increasing. Thinking that you can away with paying starting money from 2010 in 2015 isn't going to win you games.

RunKC 03-11-2014 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10479750)
we will actually have three new full time starters, our bookends will be their first full season starting at LT and RT and not just doing spot duty. And a new RG (please not a first round pick). The only constants are Jeff Allen and Rodney Hudson

doesnt sound so hot on paper when Jeff Allen is your most tenured veteran on your oline lol

LT-Fisher
LG-Allen
C-Hudson
RG-Kush
RT-Stephenson

I would not be surprised to see this going into next year.

BigMeatballDave 03-11-2014 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10479744)
As it is right now, without the draft, the only thing they can really do is roll....

Stephenson - Allen - Kush - Hudson - Fisher.

Fisher and Stephenson are dependent based on TC but the intelligence they're showing right now means that Fisher has already been handed the LT job.

Fisher was drafted to play LT.

Why do most here seem to struggle with this?

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-11-2014 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10479744)
As it is right now, without the draft, the only thing they can really do is roll....

Stephenson - Allen - Kush - Hudson - Fisher.

Fisher and Stephenson are dependent based on TC but the intelligence they're showing right now means that Fisher has already been handed the LT job.

Poor Alex


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