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Discuss Thrower 10-31-2014 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11073360)
I'll never understand this line of argument that "It was only a couple of 2nd round picks."

They're only ever just a couple of 2nd round picks... unless you actually draft good players with them. Then, yeah, they ARE a couple of 2nd round picks that we no longer have. And that ****ing sucks.
It was only a chance to select Justin Hunter, Zach Ertz, Giovanni Bernard, Kiko Alonso or Le'Veon Bell in 2013 and Cody Latimer, Jimmy Garoppolo or Allen Robinson in 2014.

Not like any of those guys would help or anything.

RealSNR 10-31-2014 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11073368)

I'm pretty sure that they will draft a QB in the higher rounds when one is available that fits their parameters for the position.
Until "one just wasn't available"

Saccopoo 10-31-2014 11:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11073360)
I'll never understand this line of argument that "It was only a couple of 2nd round picks."

They're only ever just a couple of 2nd round picks... unless you actually draft good players with them. Then, yeah, they ARE a couple of 2nd round picks that we no longer have. And that ****ing sucks.
No it doesn't.

You got a franchise level QB with a couple of second rounders.

There isn't a team in the league that wouldn't give those picks up for that. Not one.

What did the Redskins give up just for the hope of getting one in Bobby Griffin?

What did the Raiders give up hoping they'd still have one in Palmer?

The Chiefs gave up peanuts for Smith considering what he's provided in return.

RealSNR 10-31-2014 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11073379)
No it doesn't.

You got a franchise level QB with a couple of second rounders.
We got a franchise level QB with a 1st rounder in Trent Green.

That was pretty fun. For 5 years.

Then he was gone.

ChiefsCountry 10-31-2014 11:33 AM
I bet Sanchez and Pennington have more playoff starts than Chiefs drafted quarterbacks have regular season starts.

ShortRoundChief 10-31-2014 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11073393)
We got a franchise level QB with a 1st rounder in Trent Green.

That was pretty fun. For 5 years.

Then he was gone.
He got Hermed.

Just Passin' By 10-31-2014 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11073339)
So it's an argument over 0/1 VS. 0/0...
No

Just Passin' By 10-31-2014 11:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11073360)
I'll never understand this line of argument that "It was only a couple of 2nd round picks."

They're only ever just a couple of 2nd round picks... unless you actually draft good players with them. Then, yeah, they ARE a couple of 2nd round picks that we no longer have. And that ****ing sucks.
You could use that argument for any draft pick, from 1.1 to Mr. Irrelevant. It's so broad that it's meaningless.

Easy 6 10-31-2014 11:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11073360)
I'll never understand this line of argument that "It was only a couple of 2nd round picks."

They're only ever just a couple of 2nd round picks... unless you actually draft good players with them. Then, yeah, they ARE a couple of 2nd round picks that we no longer have. And that ****ing sucks.
We needed a QB and there wasnt one worth trading those two picks for in the draft.

You're acting like they were wasted picks, they werent. Our QB-centric coach was able to hand pick his guy for those two slots.

saphojunkie 10-31-2014 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 11072413)
Not drafting Geno was the right choice.

Paying Alex wasn't, though.
I still maintain that Geno Smith's fate was sealed BECAUSE he was drafted by the Jets.

That's what Mellinger fails to understand. Did it ever occur to them that Rex Ryan is a shitty head coach? That NY doesn't develop QB well? That between the media and the meadowlands and the poor front office decisions, that the Jets are historically bad at giving a young QB the right environment for maturing into a quality leader?

If Geno Smith had been drafted by a patient franchise that could handle him correctly, given offensive coaches that knew what the hell they were doing, and was allowed to sit and learn for a couple of seasons, he might have had a different story.

But that's not what happened. He's a bust. He's a bum. He sucks.

That's the story of Geno Smith. But I still believe it didn't have to be.

saphojunkie 10-31-2014 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 11073462)
He got Hermed.
He got Schiavoed.

Lzen 10-31-2014 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 11073449)
I bet Sanchez and Pennington have more playoff starts than Chiefs drafted quarterbacks have regular season starts.
:rolleyes:

Look, many of us that are glad that we didn't draft Geno also agree that the Chiefs should try to draft an early round QB at some point. And I understand the need to make a point about the Chiefs being afraid to do that. But this goes beyond stupidity.

A quick search reveals that Brodie Croyle has more career starts (18) than Pennington and Sanchez have playoff starts (12).

ChiefsCountry 10-31-2014 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 11073519)
:rolleyes:

Look, many of us that are glad that we didn't draft Geno also agree that the Chiefs should try to draft an early round QB at some point. And I understand the need to make a point about the Chiefs being afraid to do that. But this goes beyond stupidity.

A quick search reveals that Brodie Croyle has more career starts (18) than Pennington and Sanchez have playoff starts (12).
Actually Brodie has only started 10 games.

Reerun_KC 10-31-2014 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 11073492)
I still maintain that Geno Smith's fate was sealed BECAUSE he was drafted by the Jets.

That's what Mellinger fails to understand. Did it ever occur to them that Rex Ryan is a shitty head coach? That NY doesn't develop QB well? That between the media and the meadowlands and the poor front office decisions, that the Jets are historically bad at giving a young QB the right environment for maturing into a quality leader?

If Geno Smith had been drafted by a patient franchise that could handle him correctly, given offensive coaches that knew what the hell they were doing, and was allowed to sit and learn for a couple of seasons, he might have had a different story.

But that's not what happened. He's a bust. He's a bum. He sucks.

That's the story of Geno Smith. But I still believe it didn't have to be.

All I hear is Genocuses in this post....

Carlota69 10-31-2014 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 11072993)
(insert same old arguments from the past 4000 times it's been discussed)

Black and white argument!

(insert same old arguments from the past 4001 times it's been discussed, but worded slightly differently)

Hyperbole!

(insert same old argument from the past 4002 times it's been discussed, but very sarcastically)

Personal attack!

(insert that one gif of Matt Cassel trying to put on his cap, for no apparent reason)
LMAOLMAO:LOL::LOL:LMAOLMAO


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