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Mr. Laz 11-22-2014 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Count Alex's Wins (Post 11137201)
Berry is a sacred cow around here compared to Bowe, who might as well be Taliban.
omg ... you drama queen.

Nobody hates Bowe, he is just not an elite WR and thus not worth 11+ million per year. That's it, stop whining.

right now Bowe is the 4th highest paid receiver in the entire league

1 Calvin Johnson $16,207,143
2 Larry Fitzgerald $16,142,857
3 Mike Wallace $12,000,000
4 Dwayne Bowe $11,200,000

I imagine everyone would be happy as hell to keep Bowe around for #2 wr money.

Golden Tate $6,200,000

KCrockaholic 11-22-2014 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 11137209)
How so?
He's still the free safety on this play despite not playing the deep end. The free safety isn't always the deepest DB.

The SS is Chancellor as he is on the strong side of the formation of the offense.

Sorter 11-22-2014 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 11137213)
He's still the free safety on this play despite not playing the deep end. The free safety isn't always the deepest DB.

The SS is Chancellor as he is on the strong side of the formation of the offense.
Okay.

DaneMcCloud 11-22-2014 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11137041)
:rolleyes:
I'm with BossChief. Eric Berry might be the most over-hyped player in Chiefs history.

Look at Deron Cherry's stats. In his first five seasons, in a league that was geared towards the running game, he had 19 INT's.

Berry, on the other hand, has 8 total.

stevieray 11-22-2014 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11137247)
I'm with BossChief. Eric Berry might be the most over-hyped player in Chiefs history.

Look at Deron Cherry's stats. In his first five seasons, in a league that was geared towards the running game, he had 19 INT's.

Berry, on the other hand, has 8 total.
whoa.

DaneMcCloud 11-22-2014 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Vegas (Post 11137083)
didn't he have a great year after his acl injury that landed him the extension? he'll bounce back from an ankle sprain but to expect this from any player out 9 games and come back 2013 form in 2 games 4 days within eachother...yea I'm saying you're being impatient.
No, Berry did NOT sign an extension.

Berry signed a 6 year, $50 million dollar deal in 2010.

Why would the Chiefs have needed to extend Berry when he was under contract through 2015?

DaneMcCloud 11-22-2014 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11137095)
I haven't seen much evidence to support the conclusion that he's playing poorly.

Has he made poor plays? For damned sure. As have Alex Smith, Poe, Houston, etc. Hell, Jamaal has made some shit-ass plays this season.

He also isn't appearing impactful on the stat sheet, I admit, but neither is anyone in our secondary. People were praising Parker as an All-Pro after one good Buffalo game. That guy has, what, 1 INT all year? Sean Smith is having a stellar season. How many INTs for him? 0.
The bottom line is that he's not playing commeasurate with his $11.6 million dollar salary, just as Bowe isn't playing to his $11.5 million dollar salary.

There's a ton of Bowe hate and a ton of Berry love.

It doesn't make any sense.

Saul Good 11-22-2014 06:03 PM
What I don't understand is why people are only just now recognizing his shortcomings. I called it last week, and only one person agreed with me. Suddenly, that's all anyone is talking about on sports radio.

DaneMcCloud 11-22-2014 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 11137255)
whoa.
It seems like only us "old timers" remember the 70's, 80's and 90's secondaries and man, were they good!

Lloyd Burress, Gary Barbaro, Deron Cherry, Albert Lewis and Kevin "The Rock" Ross.

Those guys would be the best secondary in the NFL today, bar none.

Discuss Thrower 11-22-2014 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11137200)
I don't think anyone is melting down.

People are just beginning to be skeptical about Berry being worth 9 million per in FA.

If Berry starts knocking down balls and intercepting passes back there at single high then imagine everyone will be find with paying him all that money.
And to think I got raked over coals for pointing this out.

DaneMcCloud 11-22-2014 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11137262)
What I don't understand is why people are only just now recognizing his shortcomings. I called it last week, and only one person agreed with me. Suddenly, that's all anyone is talking about on sports radio.
I mentioned it a couple of weeks ago and was met with a small chorus of boo's.

Oh well. I wish he were playing up to his salary but clearly he's not.

stevieray 11-22-2014 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11137264)
It seems like only us "old timers" remember the 70's, 80's and 90's secondaries and man, were they good!

Lloyd Burress, Gary Barbaro, Deron Cherry, Albert Lewis and Kevin "The Rock" Ross.

Those guys would be the best secondary in the NFL today, bar none.
met Deron a few times..first thought...damn he's big for a DB for those days...in reality he's just thick 5'11''@ 197

TO's were only a matter of time.

Mr. Laz 11-22-2014 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11137264)
It seems like only us "old timers" remember the 70's, 80's and 90's secondaries and man, were they good!

Lloyd Burress, Gary Barbaro, Deron Cherry, Albert Lewis and Kevin "The Rock" Ross.

Those guys would be the best secondary in the NFL today, bar none.
Loved Albert Lewis

Reerun_KC 11-22-2014 06:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11137264)
It seems like only us "old timers" remember the 70's, 80's and 90's secondaries and man, were they good!

Lloyd Burress, Gary Barbaro, Deron Cherry, Albert Lewis and Kevin "The Rock" Ross.

Those guys would be the best secondary in the NFL today, bar none.
Have a vhs tape somewhere with burress cherry lewis and Ross playing Denver.

That secondary was nasty.

KCrockaholic 11-22-2014 06:25 PM
You can't play corner in today's NFL. Unfortunately that "nasty' secondary wouldn't be the same today.

Still good, yes.


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