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BigMeatballDave 12-18-2014 05:09 PM

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wazu 12-18-2014 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11200911)
There's also a massive difference between hacking and actually committing an act of war against the United States.

I have zero belief that they would carry anything physical out on U.S. soil. If I didn't have better things to do I would have been fine going to see the movie myself at it's opening in spite of the threats, because they are about as meaningful to me as Kim Jong Un saying he is going to nuke L.A.

I think they were trying to use fear to scare the American people into not going to see the movie opening, thus damaging Sony's ability to make money off of it. Ironically the drama surrounding this has probably increased the film's money-making potential 100-fold.

DaneMcCloud 12-18-2014 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 11200922)
Followed through with every threat to hack a computer.....is a big difference than following through with a terrorist attack

Besides if they could they would have teamed up with the Taliban and ISIwhatever and done it already

So, apparently, the vocal majority of Chiefsplanet feels like Sony should have ignored the threat and just opened the movie in eight days, correct?

:facepalm:

It's not just one country's citizens at stake here: Sony is a Japanese owned company and with their very frosty relations with North Korea, there could be repercussions there as well.

As a former exec in the entertainment business, not the terror or military or police business, erring on the side of caution is a better solution than to put lives at risk, especially when the White House states that this incident was a threat to national security.

Red Dawg 12-18-2014 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 11200773)
I don't think Seth Rogan is funny, so...North Korea may be doing us all a huge favor.

They are. Seth is shit and has done barely anything that was actually funny. Maybe we should not piss off crazy countries like NK? Is it worth possible deaths for this idiotic movie to be played? Hell no.

DenverChief 12-18-2014 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11200944)
So, apparently, the vocal majority of Chiefsplanet feels like Sony should have ignored the threat and just opened the movie in eight days, correct?

:facepalm:

It's not just one country's citizens at stake here: Sony is a Japanese owned company and with their very frosty relations with North Korea, there could be repercussions there as well.

As a former exec in the entertainment business, not the terror or military or police business, erring on the side of caution is a better solution than to put lives at risk, especially when the White House states that this incident was a threat to national security.

So the terrorists have won.

DaneMcCloud 12-18-2014 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 11200939)
I have zero belief that they would carry anything physical out on U.S. soil.

And Sony didn't believe that their system could be hacked

wazu 12-18-2014 05:17 PM

I'll say this. If North Korea so much as issues a press release condemning Star Wars Episode 7, I will be calling for President Obama to pick up the red phone.

Donger 12-18-2014 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11200944)
So, apparently, the vocal majority of Chiefsplanet feels like Sony should have ignored the threat and just opened the movie in eight days, correct?

:facepalm:

Yes. Absolutely and unequivocally.

DaneMcCloud 12-18-2014 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 11200960)
So the terrorists have won.

Won what, exactly?

Do you think this is the first time in history that a group of people stopped the release of art of any kind, whether it's music, art, film, TV, books, etc.?

Sony could have avoided this situation from the beginning by changing NK to a fictional country, something that's been happening in film for decades. They have no one to blame but themselves.

Donger 12-18-2014 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11200973)
Won what, exactly?

They achieved their objective.

wazu 12-18-2014 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11200962)
And Sony didn't believe that their system could be hacked

I seriously doubt that. I've never once heard of any company, even the brightest and boldest in technology, making a claim that they "couldn't" be hacked. You do the best you can to defend, but there are too many angles that make it easy for people to do from halfway around the world.

Sorter 12-18-2014 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 11200964)
I'll say this. If North Korea so much as issues a press release condemning Star Wars Episode 7, I will be calling for President Obama to pick up the red phone.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3k4ydjqjY1r4z8sp.gif


Nobody ****s with Star Wars.

wazu 12-18-2014 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11200973)
Won what, exactly?

Do you think this is the first time in history that a group of people stopped the release of art of any kind, whether it's music, art, film, TV, books, etc.?

Sony could have avoided this situation from the beginning by changing NK to a fictional country, something that's been happening in film for decades. They have no one to blame but themselves.

This is a much funnier and more provocative concept. Kim Jong Un is an absolute monster. People are frustrated by his very existence and the fact that he apparently will just get to keep on with his brutal reign for the entirety of his life.

A fictional country would not carry the weight. Part of the hilarity and charm of it is directly making a mockery of this specific piece of shit.

Just Passin' By 12-18-2014 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 11200950)
They are. Seth is shit and has done barely anything that was actually funny. Maybe we should not piss off crazy countries like NK? Is it worth possible deaths for this idiotic movie to be played? Hell no.

Caving to demands like this is always a good thing, because it never leads to a repeat.

DaneMcCloud 12-18-2014 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11200977)
They achieved their objective.

Yes, they did. Fox also cancelled a NK-based feature film today that was to star Steve Carrell. They're already dealing with one hacking case.

Could you imagine the aftermath of an NK based hack of Fox? Apparently, they did and aren't taking that chance.


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