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Rain Man 06-25-2015 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11566756)
Drew Brees and Lesean McCoy have already been ranked, if I'm not mistaken.


Oh.

I have lost face.

Rain Man 06-25-2015 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11566764)
Julio Jones, Calvin Johnson, Antonio Brown, Demaryius Thomas, Dez Bryant, Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Jamaal Charles, Demarco Murray, Marshawn Lynch, Rob Gronkowski, JJ Watt, Richard Sherman and Darrelle Revis are the biggest names yet to be ranked.

Obviously there are a few not coming to mind for me at the moment..


I'm both embarrassed and proud to say that I'm losing touch with the NFL these days. Other than Watt, who's the consensus second-best d-lineman? And who are the consensus best o-lineman? I'm drawing a blank.

ThaVirus 06-25-2015 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 11566771)
I'm both embarrassed and proud to say that I'm losing touch with the NFL these days. Other than Watt, who's the consensus second-best d-lineman? And who are the consensus best o-lineman? I'm drawing a blank.


Consensus best offensive lineman would have to be Joe Thomas, I'd think. Tyron Smith, Travis Frederick, Trent Williams, Marshal Yanda are other big names but they've all already been mentioned.

Second best defensive lineman really depends on system and your opinion. Robert Quinn, Terrell Suggs, and Ndamukong Suh are probably the biggest names after Watt.

Rain Man 06-25-2015 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11566776)
Consensus best offensive lineman would have to be Joe Thomas, I'd think. Tyron Smith, Travis Frederick, Trent Williams, Marshal Yanda are other big names but they've all already been mentioned.

Second best defensive lineman really depends on system and your opinion. Robert Quinn, Terrell Suggs, and Ndamukong Suh are probably the biggest names after Watt.

So there may not be a lineman other than Joe Thomas in this last 20? Or maybe Suggs, though I think of him more as an LB.

IowaChiefs83 06-25-2015 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 11566788)
So there may not be a lineman other than Joe Thomas in this last 20? Or maybe Suggs, though I think of him more as an LB.

Joe Thomas is ranked 25th.

hometeam 06-25-2015 07:25 PM

The NFL.com video is just the reaction show stuff.. anyone find the actual vid?

Rain Man 06-25-2015 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaChiefs83 (Post 11566795)
Joe Thomas is ranked 25th.


So there are no linemen in the top 20 other than Watt? That's discriminatory.

Rain Man 06-25-2015 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 11566796)
The NFL.com video is just the reaction show stuff.. anyone find the actual vid?


It's very confusing. I don't understand why his video is not like all the others'. It's almost like they went to a commercial break when he was announced.

chiefzilla1501 06-25-2015 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 11566788)
So there may not be a lineman other than Joe Thomas in this last 20? Or maybe Suggs, though I think of him more as an LB.

I don't know. But Joe Thomas getting ranked above Houston shows what a ****ing gimmick this thing is. I can't stand to think of who else is in that top 20. If Houston was in Dallas, he'd be ranked in the top 10.

IowaChiefs83 06-25-2015 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11566764)
Julio Jones, Calvin Johnson, Antonio Brown, Demaryius Thomas, Dez Bryant, Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Jamaal Charles, Demarco Murray, Marshawn Lynch, Rob Gronkowski, JJ Watt, Richard Sherman and Darrelle Revis are the biggest names yet to be ranked.

Obviously there are a few not coming to mind for me at the moment..

Jordy Nelson, Le'veon Bell, and two more I can't think of.

thabear04 06-25-2015 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 11566897)
It's very confusing. I don't understand why his video is not like all the others'. It's almost like they went to a commercial break when he was announced.

Unless Houston didn't want no part of it.

Psyko Tek 06-25-2015 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11485656)
Top 5 is wishful thinking, IMO. Not that he doesn't deserve it, but this is an offensive league. We've probably got 3 of the top 5 set in stone from QBs alone (Rodgers, Brady, Luck). Watt will most assuredly be ranked higher than Houston.

Who would make up your top 10?

no fantasy points for single player sacks?

Jiu Jitsu Jon 06-26-2015 07:13 AM

Mack Attack!

milkman 06-28-2015 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 11485875)
To just kinda springboard off this thread, heres what I want to say...

ANY talking head, any misinformed loudmouth with a computer and a national voice that doesnt rank Jamaal Charles as their Number One back every single year, is a total fraud, a totally biased fraud that should not be listened to nor read.

Heres the list of backs who've managed 5 yards per carry for five consecutive years... Barry Sanders, Jim Brown.

Thats IT.

Peterson, McCoy and whoever else all of these tards have put forth these last 3-4 years?... they PALE in comparison, its not even CLOSE.

Jamaal is the best running back in the National Football League, period.

McCoy will NEVER be able to gain yards after contact like JC, Peterson will NEVER outrun someone with the angle like JC consistently does.

And the best part is that our team has him for atleast his next two prime years... all of you **g "writers" out there better get it right this year.

Kansas City.

Jamaal Charles.

Scariest back in the league.

I was bored and finally clicked on this thread.
I don't pay any attention to players' thoughts on players, and this list illustrates perfectly the reason I don't.

However, I found this post very interesting, and I did some research and found that this list that you've provided of RBs that have averaged 5.0 ypc for 5 consecutive seasons, or more is wrong.

Neither Brown nor Sanders averaged 5.0 ypc for more than 3 consecutive seasons.

Brown did it for 3 consecutive seasons '63 to '65, his final 3 seasons, and averaged more than 5.0 ypc only twice in his previous 6 years.

Barry Sanders only had 2 consecutive years, '96 and '97.
He only had 3 other seasons in which he managed that average.

The only other RB that had 5 consecutive seasons of 5.0 ypc or more is Marion Motley, and he never had more than 157 carries in that stretch.

Surprisingly, Mercury Morris is next on the list, with 4 consecutive seasons,
but he only had fewer than 100 carries in 3 of those seasons.

Adrian Petterson, for reference has never put together any consecutive 5.0 or more ypc seasons, and in fact has had only 2 seasons in which he has achieved that mark.

LeSean McCoy also hasn't had consecutive seasons, and also has only 2 seasons that he has achieved that number.

Jamaal Charles has yet to have a season in which he has dipped below 5.0 ypc.

Easy 6 06-28-2015 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 11570407)
I was bored and finally clicked on this thread.
I don't pay any attention to players' thoughts on players, and this list illustrates perfectly the reason I don't.

However, I found this post very interesting, and I did some research and found that this list that you've provided of RBs that have averaged 5.0 ypc for 5 consecutive seasons, or more is wrong.

Neither Brown nor Sanders averaged 5.0 ypc for more than 3 consecutive seasons.

Brown did it for 3 consecutive seasons '63 to '65, his final 3 seasons, and averaged more than 5.0 ypc only twice in his previous 6 years.

Barry Sanders only had 2 consecutive years, '96 and '97.
He only had 3 other seasons in which he managed that average.

The only other RB that had 5 consecutive seasons of 5.0 ypc or more is Marion Motley, and he never had more than 157 carries in that stretch.

Surprisingly, Mercury Morris is next on the list, with 4 consecutive seasons,
but he only had fewer than 100 carries in 3 of those seasons.

Adrian Petterson, for reference has never put together any consecutive 5.0 or more ypc seasons, and in fact has had only 2 seasons in which he has achieved that mark.

LeSean McCoy also hasn't had consecutive seasons, and also has only 2 seasons that he has achieved that number.

Jamaal Charles has yet to have a season in which he has dipped below 5.0 ypc.

Its been too long to remember where I read the Brown/Sanders stat, but rest assured I wasn't just pulling stats out of my ass, it had to have come from some major site... where did you find that neither ever had 5 years at 5.0?

Anyway, I'd kinda forgot about that rant... thanks for dragging it up, kinda proud of that one.


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