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ThaVirus 07-16-2015 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11602937)
This solidifies what I stated in my initial comment: Eric Berry is overrated.

He's a fine player and appears to be a good person. But his salary has never been justified and he's not a game changer on the field.
Bro, check those stats I just posted.

He basically took every TE we faced off the field. He changed the complexion of those games without it showing up on his stat sheet. Not to mention the fact that he did that while adding 2 INT return TDs and 3.5 sacks. He changed a hell of a lot in games.

ThaVirus 07-16-2015 10:25 PM
An INT returned for a TD has to be worth, like, 2 INTs that weren't returned for a TD

BlackOp 07-16-2015 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 11602938)
It wasn't just sutton, crennel used him like that too. I don't know why. I've always questioned it.
Well..then it makes Pioli that much more of a reerun. He drafted a $60 million SS...so both Sutton AND Crennel played him out of position? Somethings not right with this scenario..

Mother****erJones 07-16-2015 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11602937)
This solidifies what I stated in my initial comment: Eric Berry is overrated.

He's a fine player and appears to be a good person. But his salary has never been justified and he's not a game changer on the field.
Overrated is over the top IMO considering how he is used. He was also damn good at how he was used also. Eric Berry isn't overrated.

Mother****erJones 07-16-2015 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 11602948)
Well..then it makes Pioli that much more of a reerun. He drafted a $60 million SS...so both Sutton AND Crennel played him out of position? Somethings not right with this scenario..
Agreed. Does it surprise you? Pioli is the ****ing anti-Christ. He's a POS, who still somehow gets praised for what any average dickhead would've done while he was here.

I just want to see Berry playing more of a FS role for one full, albeit healthy, season.

Mother****erJones 07-16-2015 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11602947)
An INT returned for a TD has to be worth, like, 2 INTs that weren't returned for a TD
Dat Tennessee INT TD do!

BlackOp 07-16-2015 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 11602951)
Overrated is over the top IMO considering how he is used. He was also damn good at how he was used also. Eric Berry isn't overrated.
He most definitely was over-paid...by like $30 million dollars though. Not his fault on that..drafted too high and rookie scale was out of whack.

I dont have an issue with Berry..I have an issue with paying him almost 12 million dollars last season. He's worth about half that.

Mother****erJones 07-16-2015 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 11602956)
He most definitely was over-paid...by like $30 million dollars though. Not his fault on that..drafted too high and rookie scale was out of whack.

I dont have an issue with Berry..I have an issue with paying him almost 12 million dollars last season. He's worth about half that.
Ya, not his fault. That was the old ****ed up CBA where all the top 10 contracts were ridiculously inflated. Would you of rather had Russell Okung?

DaneMcCloud 07-16-2015 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 11602951)
Overrated is over the top IMO considering how he is used. He was also damn good at how he was used also. Eric Berry isn't overrated.
I don't care "how he was used", he wasn't a game changer. He wasn't worthy of $60 million and he's clearly overrated by fans.

DaneMcCloud 07-16-2015 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 11602959)
Ya, not his fault. That was the old ****ed up CBA where all the top 10 contracts were ridiculously inflated. Would you of rather had Russell Okung?
I would.

Or Thomas. Or Joe Haden. Or Iupati. Or Maurkice Pouncy. Or Demaryous Thomas. Or Jared Odrick. And even Brian Bulaga.

A waiver wire pickup outplayed him last year.

BlackOp 07-16-2015 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 11602959)
Ya, not his fault. That was the old ****ed up CBA where all the top 10 contracts were ridiculously inflated. Would you of rather had Russell Okung?
Probably...yes. LT is more important. You just dont pay a rookie safety $60 million. He has to be the best in 10 years for you to break even. Pioli was looking for play-makers...but the risk was too high given the contractual obligations.

Mother****erJones 07-16-2015 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11602965)
I would.

Or Thomas. Or Joe Haden. Or Iupati. Or Maurkice Pouncy. Or Demaryous Thomas. Or Jared Odrick. And even Brian Bulaga.

A waiver wire pickup outplayed him last year.
That's all in hindsight minus Okung, no one was taking Iupati a ****ing guard top 5. Or Pouncey. Or Thomas. Or Haden. Or ****ing Odrick or Bulaga. We had Carr and Flowers. So no need to take Haden. Earl Thomas was never going top 5.

DaneMcCloud 07-16-2015 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 11602976)
That's all in hindsight minus Okung, no one was taking Iupati a ****ing guard top 5. Or Pouncey. Or Thomas. Or Haden. Or ****ing Odrick or Bulaga. We had Carr and Flowers. So no need to take Haden. Earl Thomas was never going top 5.
John Dorsey would have taken Haden

Mother****erJones 07-16-2015 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11602965)
I would.

Or Thomas. Or Joe Haden. Or Iupati. Or Maurkice Pouncy. Or Demaryous Thomas. Or Jared Odrick. And even Brian Bulaga.

A waiver wire pickup outplayed him last year.
Considering he was playing with a mass in his chest, that's not surprising. And crazy for you to say an argument.

Mother****erJones 07-16-2015 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 11602968)
Probably...yes. LT is more important. You just dont pay a rookie safety $60 million. He has to be the best in 10 years for you to break even. Pioli was looking for play-makers...but the risk was too high given the contractual obligations.
We had Branden Albert.


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