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The Franchise 04-14-2016 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12178158)
And that's the exact problem for teams on the receiving end of "blockbuster" trades: More often than not, the team that traded up is the bigger beneficiary due to talent.

No one ever mentions what the Giants gave up to acquire Eli Manning because they've won 2 Super Bowls. The Chargers received Rivers, Merriman and more and haven't won dick.

Washington's been in the playoffs twice and won the division last years: The Rams haven't had a winning season.

That's exactly why the Rams just traded up. They know they can't do dick with all of those picks.....so they figured they had a better chance of making the right call with just one.

ct 04-14-2016 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12178146)
Now I don't see where Lynch makes it out of the top 10 picks. I could see either the 49ers or the Eagles taking him for sure now.

i can easily see some qb needy teams who miss on wentz/goff trying to trade back a bit in the 1st, grab an extra pick or two, and then target lynch, or even cook towards the back end of 1st.

49ers or eagles, maybe jets or bills, or broncos, seize the opportunity to move up a few if they get antsy.

mcaj22 04-14-2016 10:24 AM

the fact that Jeff Fisher is still there to lead them to mediocrity blows my mind

O.city 04-14-2016 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12178158)
And that's the exact problem for teams on the receiving end of "blockbuster" trades: More often than not, the team that traded up is the bigger beneficiary due to talent.

No one ever mentions what the Giants gave up to acquire Eli Manning because they've won 2 Super Bowls. The Chargers received Rivers, Merriman and more and haven't won dick.

Washington's been in the playoffs twice and won the division last years: The Rams haven't had a winning season.

Loom at this situations though. The talent the skins moved up for, flamed out and the Giants didn't win superbowls until they built a defensive line.

The Chargers haven't win a superbowl with rivers, but they've been pretty successful

Eleazar 04-14-2016 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12178158)
Washington's been in the playoffs twice and won the division last years: The Rams haven't had a winning season.

That is a pretty rosy assessment of what's happened in DC since the RG3 trade.

jonzie04 04-14-2016 10:27 AM

Why couldn't this happen in 2013? :(

The Franchise 04-14-2016 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 12178180)
Why couldn't this happen in 2013? :(

Because there wasn't a bunch of QBs at the top of the draft.....

O.city 04-14-2016 10:30 AM

In the end, if you can't draft well, it doesn't matter either way.

jonzie04 04-14-2016 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12178184)
Because there wasn't a bunch of QBs at the top of the draft.....

Uhh, yeah no shit.

The Franchise 04-14-2016 10:31 AM

So if you're the Rams.....do you take Wentz or Goff?

Chief Roundup 04-14-2016 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12178162)
I'm not a Fisher fan but he certainly did well with a young Steve McNair.

But floundered with Vince Young.

DaneMcCloud 04-14-2016 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12178163)
That's just a ton of value and cheap players the Rams gave up. The qb they take is gonna have to be pretty good to make up for that and as we've seen, even a guy like rodgers can't carry a roster that far.

Interesting to watch play out

If they can get over the 7-9 hump, the trade will be well worth it.

While I believe that the draft is an important component to building a roster, the Rams have been drafting well since Snead & Fisher took over and all it's gotten them is 7-9.

staylor26 04-14-2016 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12178192)
So if you're the Rams.....do you take Wentz or Goff?

Wentz. Love him.

DaneMcCloud 04-14-2016 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 12178193)
But floundered with Vince Young.

That was because Vince Young sucked

Chief Roundup 04-14-2016 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12178196)
If they can get over the 7-9 hump, the trade will be well worth.

While I believe that the draft is an important component to building a roster, the Rams have been drafting well since Snead & Fisher took over and all it's gotten them is 7-9.

Losing Long and Laurinaitis will hurt their defense some.


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