It really isn't his fault, but damn that is/was a LOT of wasted cap space.

I know, there are ways that we can make it work but we are still spending a lot for the results in comparison to many other teams.


How this for not getting your money's worth?

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agreed

Not quite.

He's been paid a combined $18.2 million the last 2 years, so $9.1 million avg. this was the light part of his contract.

The remaining cap hits in his contract is $22m, $20.6m, $21.1m and $19m averaging $20.7 million a year.

ROFL


Where is all that Jets money going?

come on now, you know that the first 2 years was the grace period

Without production early the contract is pure raping face from here on out.

No player will ever live up to their contract. Might as well say JJ Watt stole $14.5 million from the Texans this year.
It's not Houston's fault that this injury occurred.

The Chiefs could get out of Houston's deal in 2018 only paying him elite $$ for one season if the situation was really this bad.

Nice. I'm quite positive that Ward was their number 1 rated run defending safety for the 3 years prior to this, and I know for sure he was in 2013 and 2014. What I wasn't entirely sure about was just where Stewart ranked.

Thanks though, good to know.

I'll take 2 Parkers for a combined 47.5 million over 5 years over 1 Berry at 70 million over 5. Please and thank you.

they should have got the deal done last off season. Now he deserves to be the highest paid safety in the league. And now they have to Overpay.

I agree but paying any non-QB player 20 million per is problematic and we are getting ready to pay another non-QB big.

Houston and Berry will have approximately 37 million in cap space between them.

Houston - 22m
Berry - 15m

Even if Berry signs for 12m like some people argue, it's still 34m.

If that were the case, you'd have 68.8 with 23.4 guaranteed. 23.4 is a long ways from 38.

It depends honestly.

If I'm giving a player that big of a contract, I'm wanting an "out" just in case.

Take Justin Houston. Say his leg doesn't heal and he's out for the year again. We pay him QB money for one season and then we could cut him while saving $$ (if he refuses to restructure).

I think that's where we're at with Jamaal. Nobody thought he wouldn't recover this season but it happened, so the best thing you can do is ask to restructure or cut bait.

The worst case scenario is that Houston performs like an average LB, and gets paid the full amount.


I hate to say it, but I would rather he balled out and raped....or completely failed so the Chiefs can cut him loose.

Nah; in a year we'll be able to move on from some of our worst contracts, including DJ, Hali, Maclin and yes, Houston. If these guys don't show out in '17, they're gone in '18. And Hali and DJ are gone either way. I mean sure, you want to do well in the draft but EVERY team will fail if they're not supplementing their squad via the draft. They'll be in a much better cap position in the coming years than they are this season.

It's pretty much been an unmitigated disaster.

No it won't. The Chiefs needed to make hay on that deal in the first two years, before the backloading set in. Instead they got largely a zero return on their investment in those seasons and now he's toting around one of the largest cap figures in football. Even if he plays as one of the best players in football, he's not going to OUTPLAY the $$ he's due in the coming years and as such we'll stay at a defecit.

that contract has been a loser and as he enters his age 28 season next year, the odds of it looking any better in the coming seasons are pretty long. It was a deal the Chiefs had to sign and I don't fault them for it, but it hasn't worked out at all. Let's remember that even a HoF guy like Derrick Thomas was in steep decline by age 30 and he didn't have the knee issues that Houston has had.

It's unfortunate, but it's reality.

Some of the greatest single-season sack performances have came at age 29 or later.

Strahan (22.5) 29 y/o (also had 18.5 at 31 y/o)
Jared Allen (22) 29 y/o
Robert Mathis (19.5) 32 y/o
DeMarcus Ware (20) 29 y/o

Those are just the 'elite' seasons, there is a multitude of top notch pass rushers who have hit the 14-18 sack range in their 30s, some multiple times.

Maybe I'm just overly optimistic, but I think there's a lot of good football left in Houston.