I think there's room for a spring/developmental league... but not the XFL, it's a hot mess.

I think they should create an 8 team spring league that starts the week AFTER the SB and then ends around the NFL Draft. 8 teams, play 7 games - make it 2 divisions, no playoffs - top 2 teams play for a title.

Put the teams near "college football" towns. Omaha, Austin, Gainesville, Southern CA, NY, etc...

UFL, World League, USFL, WFL, Arena League, XFL and NFL Europe - All failed American Football Leagues.

SoCal doesn't support the Chargers. It's not going to support some semi-pro league.

I doubt you'd get 1,000 people. Same with NYC.

Some of those had success and a number of great players came from a few of them. It just has to be done the right way with a smaller focus and in areas that will support something like this because that's all they've got OR they're just a crazy fanbase that will support a cheaper football fix during the offseason.

Fine... was just throwing those out, I believe you could find some fringe areas in those geographies where it might work. If not, it wouldn't be hard to find 8 regions where it could be successful. And, wasn't suggesting NYC - that general area. NY/NJ - northeast.

Vincent Kennedy McMahon really wants to set fire to a $100 million dollars. Reading what he said in his PC, he is going to be the sole owner of all 8 teams and that he wants no partners. That should be interesting

He will need to find a broadcasting partner though and I assume he will use the WWE Network infrastructure to stream games with a new app.

Oh yeah, he'll use the WWE brand and mechanics. Guys like Stone Cold will be the voice of whatever team might land in Podunk, TX... it will be what they did originally.

I think they did a 30 for 30 on the XFL. Recall seeing a documentary and it was really a shitshow behind the scenes. If done right, he's got the brand and auidence to make it work.

Question is money and can he stay away from the business of the WWE and surround himself with true football talent behind the scenes to make it happen?

I think it depends on how you define "success".

If you're talking about monetary success, then no.

If you're talking about developmental success, then yeah, there were more than a few.


Historically, that's proven to be impossible.

I don't think the new XFL changes that history.

He said there where will be zero WWE crossover but we will see. I just don't see how he will be able to afford it.

I do like the idea of a 2 hour game though. PFT has some ideas how this is going to work and if it is basically a constant 2 minute drill that could be decent.

The snowflakes crying about the anthem will tune in for the first 5 minutes, soak in the enjoyment of everyone standing, then promptly turn the channel.

Not sure I agree with that. There are tons of tier 2 markets that will never get an NFL team. Portland, Austin, San Antonio, Louisville, Columbus, des Moines, OKC.... I think football could do really well there. The MLS might be a good model to consider. Even though soccer fans know they're watching second rate soccer, the league is still making a decent amount of money and pulling in decent crowds. If minor league baseball can pull in 7k per game, why couldn't a well run xfl league pull in decent crowds in the right market?

No, I was referring to players as successes... and I think a spring league would take a decade to produce any real profit. I do not believe the XFL could be that spring league though.

If KC gets a team, I want it to be called the Flying Squirrels.

You might have misread something or maybe I mistyped it... these "B" cities that you referenced would totally support something like a developmental league.

Look at the minor leagues... they're in nothing, nowhere towns and it does a good job.

What I see as being a downfall is I could see Vince McMahon being a shiny object guy. Let's go big or go home. If he built this out like the MLS and let it slowly build a grassroots movement, I actually think it would be an interesting concept. What's even more unique is that there are tons of stadiums probably practically begging to get better use in the offseason so that's a pretty huge expense most leagues would worry about. The question is if he thinks this will be a mass media smash hit right away, and that's really hard to believe.