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chiefzilla1501 01-10-2018 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13352743)
Every single coach on that staff can get ****ed as far as I'm concerned. DL are soft and shit in the run game, outside of Ragland our LB core has regressed, and the secondary outside of Peters is a rotating wheel of sadness, and on a whole the "tackling" effort this team gives is pathetic.
You wouldn't keep Gibbs and staff if it delivered Adam Zimmer? Adding the Zimmer scheme would be a boner and a half.

rabblerouser 01-10-2018 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13352748)
You wouldn't keep Gibbs and staff if it delivered Adam Zimmer? Adding the Zimmer scheme would be a boner and a half.
If Reid is gone, then I'm in.

Sassy Squatch 01-10-2018 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13352748)
You wouldn't keep Gibbs and staff if it delivered Adam Zimmer? Adding the Zimmer scheme would be a boner and a half.
I'm ****ing done with this defense and the shit they do that pissed me off. I. Want. Them. All. Gone.

rabblerouser 01-10-2018 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13352745)
Because I ****ing hate him for his part in embarrassing the team twice in the playoffs. Have I not made that clear enough?
Who, Reid?

rabblerouser 01-10-2018 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13352752)
I'm ****ing done with this defense and the shit they do that pissed me off. I. Want. Them. All. Gone.
Won't matter a lick if Reidtard is still HC.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-10-2018 07:25 PM
I'd bet that Andy won't fire Bob because then that might put his son's job in danger... unless of course you just promote from within, but who is really that good of a candidate on the staff right now? He'd just keep Bob as opposed to that.

It sucks but that's probably reality.

srvy 01-10-2018 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13352743)
Every single coach on that staff can get ****ed as far as I'm concerned. DL are soft and shit in the run game, outside of Ragland our LB core has regressed, and the secondary outside of Peters is a rotating wheel of sadness, and on a whole the "tackling" effort this team gives is pathetic.
I cant disagree with any of the above. I will say that for the most part tackling around the league is bad as a whole. I think because of focus of the strip and creating turnovers.

Sassy Squatch 01-10-2018 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 13352753)
Who, Reid?
3 main culprits. Smith. Reid. Sutton. In that order. Smith is gone barring an absolute disaster, I'd rather let Mahomes finish developing before firing Reid, and Sutton has no redeeming value to me anymore.

srvy 01-10-2018 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13352745)
Because I ****ing hate him for his part in embarrassing the team twice in the playoffs. Have I not made that clear enough?
Players also had a big part in this.

chiefzilla1501 01-10-2018 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13352755)
I'd bet that Andy won't fire Bob because then that might put his son's job in danger... unless of course you just promote from within, but who is really that good of a candidate on the staff right now? He'd just keep Bob as opposed to that.

It sucks but that's probably reality.
If only there were a DC candidate out there who has already worked with most of the Chiefs' defensive assistants who would be more than happy to keep the entire defensive staff intact. Cough cough... Adam Zimmer.

rabblerouser 01-10-2018 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 13352756)
I cant disagree with any of the above. I will say that for the most part tackling around the league is bad as a whole. I think because of focus of the strip and creating turnovers.
It's because they don't practice anymore, post 2011 - same reason there's so many season ending injuries, especially early.

It's watered the whole thing down.

rabblerouser 01-10-2018 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 13352761)
Players also had a big part in this.
So did the refs.

Thus, it's not a theory. Just a conspiracy.

rabblerouser 01-10-2018 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13352762)
If only there were a DC candidate out there who has already worked with most of the Chiefs' defensive assistants who would be more than happy to keep the entire defensive staff intact. Cough cough... Adam Zimmer.
My buddy wolfy keeps hollering about them Ryan boys.

I tell him it's the same system, he says he don't care, he likes the attitude. I asked which one?

He goes "It don't matter."

Ftr, I'd rather have Zimmer or just keep Sutton...and fire Reid.

chiefzilla1501 01-10-2018 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13352752)
I'm ****ing done with this defense and the shit they do that pissed me off. I. Want. Them. All. Gone.
We never had these issues with tackling or any of that shit in previous years. You can see it in the players' faces. You can see it in Peters jawing off at Sutton. The players lost total faith in the scheme.

chiefzilla1501 01-10-2018 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 13352769)
My buddy wolfy keeps hollering about them Ryan boys.

I tell him it's the same system, he says he don't care, he likes the attitude. I asked which one?

He goes "It don't matter."
If the Lombardi rumor has any legs, the Chiefs are looking outside the Ryan scheme. If they were looking that direction, they would have taken a serious look at Pettine. The Zimmer scheme is one of the most innovative schemes out there.


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