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tmax63 11-11-2018 11:42 AM

I really doubt he'll see that kind of money. Gurley is still young with a lot of miles. The Steelers have put a lot of miles on LB. Not saying the Steelers can't treat him better than they are.

The Franchise 11-11-2018 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 13882810)
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Coming from the guy who spends his money on hookers.

wazu 11-11-2018 11:53 AM

Emmanuel Sanders on NFL Network says he'd have signed the frachise deal and played full season, but taken out an insurance policy that guarantees big payday if he gets injured. That kinda makes some sense.

JakeF 11-11-2018 12:03 PM

Steelers will tag him next and force the issue again. Not a good decision by Bell.

PAChiefsGuy 11-12-2018 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 13882901)
Lol Good Lord, man. How much money does anyone need?

People like to get paid what they're worth- surprise!

You're worth what someone will pay you. Leveon obviously believes someone out there (probably IND or NYJ) will pay him more than the $30m guaranteed the Steelers offered.

You sound like a greedy businessman who only cares about money right now. Even his own offensive lineman indirectly said the contract he was offered is more than enough.

You're worth what someone will pay you?? So Albery Haynesworth and Matt Flynn were worth huge contracts they signed? **** out of here with that BS logic. You are worth what you contribute to the team not necessarily what you are getting paid.

Overall, I see both sides. Whether it's money or whatever Bell clearly doesn't want to play there anymore yet the Steelers keep trying to hold him hostage. IMO that's wrong. This isn't prison let him go if he doesn't want to be there. That said I think Bell is a shit teammate who only cares about himself and also isn't handling this situation well. End result is the Steelers are more than likely not going to get as much as they should for Bell because of their stubbornness and Bell isn't going to get as much money for the very same reason.

ChiefsFanatic 11-12-2018 03:22 AM

I do not ever want another work stoppage, but the NFLPA has got to become stronger somehow, and players need to have more of their contracts guaranteed. With the damage they expose their body too, and the danger to their future quality of life, these players deserve better monetary protections and benefits.

NFL teams can cut players just to eliminate their salary, or force the player to renegotiate. That is the current system, and I have advocated that we use it in dealing with Houston's contract, but that doesn't mean that I am insensitive to their dilemma.

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-King- 11-12-2018 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 13886984)
You sound like a greedy businessman who only cares about money right now. Even his own offensive lineman indirectly said the contract he was offered is more than enough.

You're worth what someone will pay you?? So Albery Haynesworth and Matt Flynn were worth huge contracts they signed? **** out of here with that BS logic. You are worth what you contribute to the team not necessarily what you are getting paid.

Overall, I see both sides. Whether it's money or whatever Bell clearly doesn't want to play there anymore yet the Steelers keep trying to hold him hostage. IMO that's wrong. This isn't prison let him go if he doesn't want to be there. That said I think Bell is a shit teammate who only cares about himself and also isn't handling this situation well. End result is the Steelers are more than likely not going to get as much as they should for Bell because of their stubbornness and Bell isn't going to get as much money for the very same reason.

There's nothing greedy about this. Bell is trying to get what he's worth. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. He's one of the best 5 people in the world at good job. His pay should reflect that and he should be able to fight for every cent he can get. Especially when he plays a position that will most likely leave him crippled and ****ed in the head when he retires.

And the teammates that spoke against what he's doing are so ****ing stupid for doing that, it hurts. It's the most backwards thing you can do when you're part of the union. What Bell is doing is also helping them out even if they don't want to acknowledge it. When their contract is up, you think the team won't ask them to take discounts for the good of the team and convince them to take less because "hey, if you fight for more money, you clearly care more about money than football." They ****ed themselves when they spoke out.
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-King- 11-12-2018 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 13883312)
Steelers will tag him next and force the issue again. Not a good decision by Bell.

The 3rd franchise tag is the average of the 5 highest paid quarterback which is currently 25-30 million. They'd be idiots to do that.

Bell will be a FA in the off-season and be free to sign with whoever he likes.
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PAChiefsGuy 11-12-2018 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13886992)
There's nothing greedy about this. Bell is trying to get what he's worth. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. He's one of the best 5 people in the world at good job. His pay should reflect that and he should be able to fight for every cent he can get. Especially when he plays a position that will most likely leave him crippled and ****ed in the head when he retires.

And the teammates that spoke against what he's doing are so ****ing stupid for doing that, it hurts. It's the most backwards thing you can do when you're part of the union. What Bell is doing is also helping them out even if they don't want to acknowledge it. When their contract is up, you think the team won't ask them to take discounts for the good of the team and convince them to take less because "hey, if you fight for more money, you clearly care more about money than football." They ****ed themselves when they spoke out.
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I got news for you.. Not everyone cares about money as much as Bell does. Doesn't mean it's wrong if someone cares about money more than someone else but don't act like everyone puts the same level of importance on it.

Anyway, you act like the contract the Steelers offered him would have made him the 10th highest paid RB. He was offered a contract that would have made the highest paid RB in the NFL. He wanted more Steelers said no. He decided to sit out the season because of it. This doesn't make him a hero to the union especially since Conner is having a great season and the Steelers offense hasn't missed a beat.

-King- 11-12-2018 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 13887014)
I got news for you.. Not everyone cares about money as much as Bell does. Doesn't mean it's wrong if someone cares about money more than someone else but don't act like everyone puts the same level of importance on it.

Anyway, you act like the contract the Steelers offered him would have made him the 10th highest paid RB. He was offered a contract that would have made the highest paid RB in the NFL. He wanted more Steelers said no. He decided to sit out the season because of it. This doesn't make him a hero to the union especially since Conner is having a great season and the Steelers offense hasn't missed a beat.

The contract he rejected was had 20 mil guaranteed. Why would he take that? Gurley got that in signing bonus alone.

And again, Bell has already been franchised, played on the franchised and got 400 touches during that franchise year. Stop acting like he's just an asshole here. No player wants to play under the franchise tag, much less be ran down, then tagged again the following year.
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GloryDayz 11-12-2018 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13887019)
The contract he rejected was had 20 mil guaranteed. Why would he take that? Gurley got that in signing bonus alone.

And again, Bell has already been franchised, played on the franchised and got 400 touches during that franchise year. Stop acting like he's just an asshole here. No player wants to play under the franchise tag, much less be ran down, then tagged again the following year.
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Meh, it's a business. Perhaps the Steelers learned from the mistakes of other who put too many dollars into one basket. And, as others have said, Conner stepped-up and is doing just fine. That tends to be the case at that position, not a dime a dozen, but finding a serviceable RB isn't nearly the task as other positions.

-King- 11-12-2018 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 13887024)
Meh, it's a business. Perhaps the Steelers learned from the mistakes of other who put too many dollars into one basket. And, as others have said, Conner stepped-up and is doing just fine. That tends to be the case at that position, not a dime a dozen, but finding a serviceable RB isn't nearly the task as other positions.

Yeah but at the same time what the Steelers have done with Connor is rare. It's not easy to go from elite player to another (seemingly) elite player in such a short time even if the position is RB. Otherwise, every team would have an elite running back if it was so easy to get one. There's still a very big gap between serviceable and elite.
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ThaVirus 11-12-2018 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 13886984)
You sound like a greedy businessman who only cares about money right now. Even his own offensive lineman indirectly said the contract he was offered is more than enough.

You're worth what someone will pay you?? So Albery Haynesworth and Matt Flynn were worth huge contracts they signed? **** out of here with that BS logic. You are worth what you contribute to the team not necessarily what you are getting paid.

Overall, I see both sides. Whether it's money or whatever Bell clearly doesn't want to play there anymore yet the Steelers keep trying to hold him hostage. IMO that's wrong. This isn't prison let him go if he doesn't want to be there. That said I think Bell is a shit teammate who only cares about himself and also isn't handling this situation well. End result is the Steelers are more than likely not going to get as much as they should for Bell because of their stubbornness and Bell isn't going to get as much money for the very same reason.

No you don't. You sound ****ing ridiculous.

"Bell should just be grateful and have taken what he was offered!"

Just because any of us would have signed that contract in a heartbeat doesn't mean he should have.

GloryDayz 11-12-2018 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13887029)
Yeah but at the same time what the Steelers have done with Connor is rare. It's not easy to go from elite player to another (seemingly) elite player in such a short time even if the position is RB. Otherwise, every team would have an elite running back if it was so easy to get one. There's still a very big gap between serviceable and elite.
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We went from Priest (2nd all-time for Chiefs), to Larry (3rd all-time for Chiefs), to Jamaal (1st all-time for Chiefs), to Hunt (TBD); really? Which of those RBs wasn't elite? In a pass-happy league, the RB is important, but not as important.

BigRichard 11-12-2018 10:44 AM

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What in the ****?


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