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FringeNC 01-21-2019 07:50 PM

Something about paying guys on the 31st ranked D a lot of money...

I dunno. And you certainly don't make any kind of decision until you've hired the new DC and get his input.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-21-2019 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14062155)
This is where it pays to have a defensive developer that can scheme up and develop some of that.

Depends on what you mean by develop. If you could just develop top tier pass rushers the Patriots wouldn't have gone a decade without developing one. I do think you can develop a lot of those Rob Ninkovich type guys that are always in the right spot and don't make mental mistakes or blow their assignment.

O.city 01-21-2019 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14062182)
Depends on what you mean by develop. If you could just develop top tier pass rushers the Patriots wouldn't have gone a decade without developing one. I do think you can develop a lot of those Rob Ninkovich type guys that are always in the right spot and don't make mental mistakes or blow their assignment.

That’s what I mean.

It’s not going to happen where you develop Khalil Mack but they need a lot of fundamental guys

I dunno how they’re going to make the defense much better very quick with just draft picks thoigh

dirk digler 01-21-2019 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 14062179)
Something about paying guys on the 31st ranked D a lot of money...

I dunno. And you certainly don't make any kind of decision until you've hired the new DC and get his input.


totally agree

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-21-2019 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14062188)
That’s what I mean.

It’s not going to happen where you develop Khalil Mack but they need a lot of fundamental guys

I dunno how they’re going to make the defense much better very quick with just draft picks thoigh

They can't. They'll also need to augment via FA. However, given that they had a team that could have gone to the SB this year, don't you wish they would have just given Seattle the 2nd rounder from the Peters trade they wanted for Thomas before he got hurt?

Stick him on Gronk's bitch ass and all those catches in the 4th Q and OT play out a lot differently.

With that said, Veach's first draft class does not inspire a ton of hope in his ability to identify talent, and Dorsey couldn't find any defensive talent that didn't have a major liability attached to it (Ford, Peters) either, which is why the Chiefs D is in the situation it is.

O.city 01-21-2019 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14062207)
They can't. They'll also need to augment via FA. However, given that they had a team that could have gone to the SB this year, don't you wish they would have just given Seattle the 2nd rounder from the Peters trade they wanted for Thomas before he got hurt?

Stick him on Gronk's bitch ass and all those catches in the 4th Q and OT play out a lot differently.

With that said, Veach's first draft class does not inspire a ton of hope in his ability to identify talent, and Dorsey couldn't find any defensive talent that didn't have a major liability attached to it (Ford, Peters) either, which is why the Chiefs D is in the situation it is.

That’s what I’m thinking too.

Yeah the Earl Thomas thing was just damn bad luck. I’m guessing they end up signing him this offseason though I dunno if that’s smart or not.

I don’t think they need a big fish free agent but it wouldn’t hurt if they could draft or trade for one

philfree 01-21-2019 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14062207)
They can't. They'll also need to augment via FA. However, given that they had a team that could have gone to the SB this year, don't you wish they would have just given Seattle the 2nd rounder from the Peters trade they wanted for Thomas before he got hurt?

Stick him on Gronk's bitch ass and all those catches in the 4th Q and OT play out a lot differently.

With that said, Veach's first draft class does not inspire a ton of hope in his ability to identify talent, and Dorsey couldn't find any defensive talent that didn't have a major liability attached to it (Ford, Peters) either, which is why the Chiefs D is in the situation it is.

I don't know. Thomas's leg broke with very little to no contact and it was reported that because he didn't have a steel rod put in his leg that it would most likely break again. To me it looks like we probably dodged a bullet in signing another player who was going to end up on IR.

The Franchise 01-21-2019 11:31 PM

Just say **** it and move to a 4-3. It allows you to have four down linemen that works in your base package as well as the nickel and dime.

Cut this position switching shit and put KPass and Speaks as down linemen. Tag and trade Ford. Houston can take a pay cut or be gone.

This team needs a ****ing enema on that side of the ball.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-21-2019 11:34 PM

I want a Gregg Williams type of DC

Aspengc8 01-22-2019 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 14062703)
Just say **** it and move to a 4-3. It allows you to have four down linemen that works in your base package as well as the nickel and dime.

Cut this position switching shit and put KPass and Speaks as down linemen. Tag and trade Ford. Houston can take a pay cut or be gone.

This team needs a ****ing enema on that side of the ball.

ROFL

Sassy Squatch 01-22-2019 07:36 AM

Tag and try to trade.

Red Dawg 01-22-2019 07:46 AM

I would to prefer to pay defensive players that oh I don't know.....DON'T COMMIT AN OFFSIDES PENALTY THAT COST US OUR FIRST SB APPEARANCE IN 50 YEARS! Let him walk. He's a mental weakling and a thrid down guy at best.

Reerun_KC 01-22-2019 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bricks (Post 14062157)
While I do agree,

I just wanna say, I’ll bet if Dee Ford was on the Pats last night and lined up off sides like that; Belicheck would’ve been like **** you, you’re out the door! The Chiefs are more like “yeah we’ll consider signing you.” Thats the difference between the Patriots and the Chiefs.

Difference between championship teams and the teams that feel good about regular season wins.

kcpasco 01-22-2019 07:57 AM

All I know is we have to get stronger at stopping the run. The Patriots took our 1 strength on D and negated it by running and quick passes. I guess you could franchise him but I don’t know how you fix this dumpster fire of a D in 1 offseason.

notorious 01-22-2019 08:01 AM

He can be a brokedick dumbass for another team. **** him.


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