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MahomesMagic 09-30-2021 06:01 AM

He wasn't as good as Burrow or Murray coming out.

Jared Goff 2.0.

Sassy Squatch 09-30-2021 06:02 AM

It was obvious from the start that it was a horrible idea, but Meyer/Baalke have ****ed them up well beyond what I thought they'd be capable of. Disaster hiring.

Deberg_1990 09-30-2021 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15863211)
He wasn't as good as Burrow or Murray coming out.

Jared Goff 2.0.

Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields or Mac Jones?

MahomesMagic 09-30-2021 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15863214)
Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields or Mac Jones?

Wilson (yes, he is looking bad now too, this is future)
Lance
Fields He needs Nagy fired
Lawrence
Mac

Buehler445 09-30-2021 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15863212)
It was obvious from the start that it was a horrible idea, but Meyer/Baalke have ****ed them up well beyond what I thought they'd be capable of. Disaster hiring.

You should know how bad it can get when ego gets in the way. I mean we had Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards and Scott Franchise Killer Pioli back to back for ****s sake.

I haven’t heard shit from Baalke but Meyer has been a total douche the whole time.

Sassy Squatch 09-30-2021 07:19 AM

Baalke was a complete failure. Went into the off season with 74 million in cap space and multiple 1sts and 2nds and came away with damn near nothing to show for it.

ToxSocks 09-30-2021 08:19 AM

He'll be fine.

staylor26 09-30-2021 08:21 AM

He’s been absolutely awful.

I think he’ll be alright, but he’s never going to live up to the ridiculous hype.

tredadda 09-30-2021 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15863348)
He’s been absolutely awful.

I think he’ll be alright, but he’s never going to live up to the ridiculous hype.

I am willing to give him more time. That team drafted #1 for a reason. It doesn't help when their GM drafts a RB in the first when their Oline is as poor as it is. They are gonna get him killed and ruin him if they aren't careful.

Easy 6 09-30-2021 08:47 AM

I’m looking forward to seeing him tonight and forming my own judgements, not only him but Meyer as well

staylor26 09-30-2021 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 15863363)
I am willing to give him more time. That team drafted #1 for a reason. It doesn't help when their GM drafts a RB in the first when their Oline is as poor as it is. They are gonna get him killed and ruin him if they aren't careful.

All of the talk about his situation is absolutely true, but it’s not an excuse for the interceptions and his terrible play. He just hasn’t looked even close to “generational”, and never will, because he isn’t.

tredadda 09-30-2021 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15863392)
All of the talk about his situation is absolutely true, but it’s not an excuse for the interceptions and his terrible play. He just hasn’t looked even close to “generational”, and never will, because he isn’t.

True, but still willing to give the benefit of the doubt. Manning was a generational QB as well and he sucked big time his first year or two. I am willing to give him a pass for now because mistakes will happen. If he is making these same mistakes in Year 3 then there is a problem. For a player that was as highly rated as him, these losses and mistakes are just what he needs. It's been too easy in HS and college when he was the superior athlete and was surrounded by superior talent. Now he's in the NFL. I am fascinated to see how he overcomes this now that he lacks those advantages.

RunKC 09-30-2021 09:00 AM

Situation matters so much in this league. You look at 2 talented QB’s like Lawrence and Wilson and then see the absolute shit teams that ruin them.

Same shit happened to Luck.

The problem with this league isn’t talent it’s coaching and an overrun abomination of shit owners/GM’s

MahomesMagic 09-30-2021 09:17 AM

People overrated him because of his height and long hair.


Saw even people I respect say, "Well, here Trevor throws the ball right at the safety..

Here Trevor holds the ball too long...Here Trevor panics...but what an amazing prospect!"

So they see the problems but were too afraid to get out of group think.


I doubt Jaguars end up paying his 2nd contract before he gets moved.

staylor26 09-30-2021 09:36 AM

The Jaguars are 11th in pass block win rate.

They have some decent weapons in Marvin Jones, DJ Chark, and Laviska Shenault.

I don’t see how any of that is an excuse for the poor decision making and all around bad play.


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