Your division is trash. Did you miss something? Did I miss something? Are we having this conversation in a reality you created to fit your narrative?

Back to the real world, your division is absolute garbage and has been for a looooong time. That's like bragging about beating up on reeruned kids.

gtfo with this shit.

According to Pats fans- they have the toughest division ever in the history of football and have memes to prove it. Every year they have the hardest schedule and have to climb Mt. Everest barefoot to win every game.

But the Pats are the bestest most perfect team ever!! Every 3 yard Brady checkdown is a perfect spiral and the best ever thrown. Best fans, even though they leave at half time if the Pats are not winning. Every player that has put on a Pats uniform is the best there ever was, even if they were injury prone half their career. Even their beer vendors get there 30 seconds faster than the rest of the NFL and the beer is 1.2 degrees colder - they have stats to prove it!! There is not one thing the Pats have done or will do that is not Perfect in every single way. Patriots and Perfect are synonyms.

The decision to not punish Tyreek is arguably the least arbitrary decision that was ever made by NFL since white NFL fandom overreaction to Pac Man Jones was mollified by giving Roger Goodell too much independent say in punishing players..

Tyreek sat down for 8 and 1/2 hours for what I think was a transcribed session. Methinks that the only reason the stuff is confidential is because it would humiliate the people that lined up to **** Tyreek into marrying into sharing 5 years 100 million as spouses when he saw the warning signs indicating that it would be better to not get married and co-parent and pay child support if the judge says so.

You think the Pats would've done much worse in the AFC South all those years when the Jags/Texans/Tits sucked? How 'about the NFC North with the Vikes/Lions/BEars?

Did the NFC West put up much resistance to the Niners when they were on top?



Literally never said any of those things, but whatever floats your boat.

Patriots have drilled everyone, inside the AFCE or not. You can ignore all the evidence if you want, but it is what it is.

Yeah, basically getting five extra byes a year (Miami tends to play well at home) for over a decade never enters into it at all. Sorry, but that it is what it is too, douche.

Every year the division is gifted to the Cheatriots. No other team in the AFC East has been relevant forever. They draft poorly, trade poorly, are coached poorly, and for some reason never get any better. I'm sure that's just a coincidence, though.

Right, because the Patriots would've STRUGGLED if they had, say, swapped with the Colts and had to deal with the Tits/Jags/Texans all those years. Oh wait, they've actually mopped the floor with them.

Just as they have the NFC North.

And the NFC West.

Besides -- in what universe has this EVER been used to undermine a team's dominance? Did anyone ever say "wow, the NFC West was WEAK outside of the Niners. NO WONDER they dominated all those years..." Not that i can recall.

:rolleyes:

Yeah, because vs. Jets/@ Bills/vs. Colts is exactly the same thing as vs. Broncos/@ Chargers/vs. Colts.

:rolleyes: indeed

What are you talking about? If the question is "has the AFC West been better than the AFC East for the last 20 years" then obviously the answer is yes. Not like that fact has robbed the Chiefs of any championships, but it's been a tougher road for you than for MOST teams in MOST divisions, because the AFC West has been one of hte better divisions over the last 20 years.

My point isn't AFCE > AFCW. It's that AFCE (other than Pats) isn't really any worse than AFCS (other than Peyton) or NFCN (other than Packers) over the last 20 years. Or NFCW (other than Seahawks) also, to be honest.

Painting the AFC East as the BY FAR worst division in the NFL over the last 20 years is just inaccurate.

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Ha ha. Yeah, AFCE looking SUPER competitive!

Pats have a ****in ticket punched to the playoffs as soon as season opens. As long as winning your division guarantees a spot, theyve got a red carpet.

Actually.... ROFLROFL

You're surprised the most dominant dynasty in NFL history has won its division every year during its run, except when Brady was injured?

You know the Niners won 11 out of 13 right?

Oh, let me help you with the Steelers in the 70s:

1972 Steelers
1973 Bengals
1974 Steelers
1975 Steelers
1976 Steelers
1977 Steelers
1978 Steelers
1979 Steelers


Dynasties start by winning their division all the damn time. It's kinda step one...

Talk about moving the goalpost, you keep touting the last 20 years, not you want to talk about football in a different era?

I'm pointing out that dynastic teams dominate their division for very long periods of time. Showing that the Patriots have dominated the AFC East doesn't prove that the AFC East (outside of the Patriots) have sucked for the last 20 years.

Yes, the Patriots have dominated the AFCE. They've also dominated just about every other division in football during that same timeframe.