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DRM08 01-05-2020 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 14697977)
Maybe so but Allen is nothing special. I dont even think he's a game manager b/c he's not accuarate. Yesterday, he may have set some sort of a record for coming unglued down the stretch of an NFL playoff game.
You saw the difference in the two QB's. Once HOU got tired of trying to give the game away, and once it was painfully obvious that Josh Allen was not capable of accepting any gifts to win the game, a play had to be made to finally win the damn thing, and Watson made it. The moment was clearly too big for Josh Allen yesterday. He looked terrified before he even took the field on every drive down the stretch. No way I want a QB like that for anything.

To be fair, it was his first playoff game. But you'd much rather see the guy start off shaky and finish strong than the other way around. He really fell apart down the stretch. UGLY stuff.

chiefzilla1501 01-05-2020 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 14697977)
Maybe so but Allen is nothing special. I dont even think he's a game manager b/c he's not accuarate. Yesterday, he may have set some sort of a record for coming unglued down the stretch of an NFL playoff game.

Even though Watson didnt look all that great for most of the game, you saw the difference in the two QB's. Once HOU got tired of trying to give the game away, and once it was painfully obvious that Josh Allen was not capable of accepting any gifts to win the game, a play had to be made to finally win the damn thing, and Watson made it. The moment was clearly too big for Josh Allen yesterday. He looked terrified before he even took the field on every drive down the stretch. No way I want a QB like that for anything.

Yeah he looked really bad in the clutch yesterday. Just saying he’s looked better in the clutch in regular season games. He might be a much more mobile version of Flacco. Flacco wasn’t terribly accurate either. And his first playoff performances were beyond terrible. But for one playoff run he out together a really solid performance and had the right pieces around him. Unlike an Alex Smith, Allen is at least somewhat aggressive for a game manager.

The bills are in trouble if he turns out to be a choker with playoff pressure. But if he doesnt I don’t think they’re regretting who they have. Of course they’d rather have mahomes or Rodgers but not every team is blessed with a generational talent.

Chiefshrink 01-05-2020 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14698147)
Yeah he looked really bad in the clutch yesterday. Just saying he’s looked better in the clutch in regular season games. He might be a much more mobile version of Flacco. Flacco wasn’t terribly accurate either. And his first playoff performances were beyond terrible. But for one playoff run he out together a really solid performance and had the right pieces around him. Unlike an Alex Smith, Allen is at least somewhat aggressive for a game manager.

The bills are in trouble if he turns out to be a choker with playoff pressure. But if he doesnt I don’t think they’re regretting who they have. Of course they’d rather have mahomes or Rodgers but not every team is blessed with a generational talent.

He's actually the modern day Bobby Douglas that can throw.:D

NJChiefsFan 01-05-2020 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 14696226)
You guys are being a little hard on Deberg. At no point did Deberg ever say that Mahomes wasn't better than Allen.

Yes but a rational person knows it's not worth a thread to post what some random person said. Cause there is NO way a number of people said it where it warrants actually asking the community if they think these"people" are crazy.

Chiefshrink 01-05-2020 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 14697977)
Maybe so but Allen is nothing special. I dont even think he's a game manager b/c he's not accuarate. Yesterday, he may have set some sort of a record for coming unglued down the stretch of an NFL playoff game.

Even though Watson didnt look all that great for most of the game, you saw the difference in the two QB's. Once HOU got tired of trying to give the game away, and once it was painfully obvious that Josh Allen was not capable of accepting any gifts to win the game, a play had to be made to finally win the damn thing, and Watson made it. The moment was clearly too big for Josh Allen yesterday. He looked terrified before he even took the field on every drive down the stretch. No way I want a QB like that for anything.

:clap:

Bills defense did far enough to win that game for sure.:thumb:

JakeF 01-05-2020 09:45 PM

Allen still has a lot to learn. He has to be able to calm down and focus in crunch time. He's still showing some talent though. He has a chance to be a quality starter in the NFL for a long time.

TLO 01-16-2020 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14700486)
Allen still has a lot to learn. He has to be able to calm down and focus in crunch time. He's still showing some talent though. He has a chance to be a quality starter in the NFL for a long time.

He's garbage

notorious 01-16-2020 12:09 PM

Jesus Christ. How many clogged turd threads are going to float up?

DRM08 01-16-2020 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14727485)
He's garbage

Compared to Mahomes, I agree. Compared to a lot of other QBs in the NFL? Josh is pretty solid.

KChiefs1 01-16-2020 12:13 PM

Watching the WC game vs the Texans is proof enough.

DRM08 10-05-2020 12:01 PM

Josh is off to a very strong start this year, thanks in part to a schedule featuring 3 of the worst defenses in the league for the first 4 weeks. Dan Orlovsky bringing some high heat. I hope this kind of comparison motivates Mahomes, as it did for the Baltimore game.

MVP
@BuffaloBills


First 4 games:

2020 Josh Allen
4-0 W-L
1,409 yards
15 touchdowns
71% Comp pct
9.0 Yds per att

2018 Patrick Mahomes
4-0 W-L
1,253 yards
15 touchdowns
65% Comp pct
8.7 Yds per att

UChieffyBugger 10-05-2020 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15218165)
Josh is off to a very strong start this year, thanks in part to a schedule featuring 3 of the worst defenses in the league for the first 4 weeks. Dan Orlovsky bringing some high heat. I hope this kind of comparison motivates Mahomes, as it did for the Baltimore game.

MVP
@BuffaloBills


First 4 games:

2020 Josh Allen
4-0 W-L
1,409 yards
15 touchdowns
71% Comp pct
9.0 Yds per att

2018 Patrick Mahomes
4-0 W-L
1,253 yards
15 touchdowns
65% Comp pct
8.7 Yds per att

Those Allen stats aren't right. He has 12 td's for 1326 yards and one int thus far.

DRM08 10-05-2020 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 15218268)
Those Allen stats aren't right. He has 12 td's for 1326 yards and one int thus far.

Wow, I don't know where Orlovsky pulled those stats.

Mecca 10-05-2020 12:50 PM

I'm assuming they're counting his rushing numbers in there.

smithandrew051 10-05-2020 12:50 PM

I’m guessing he added rushing stats for total yards and touchdowns.


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