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Mecca 04-20-2020 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14918469)
Everyone said that LB Derrick Johnson wouldn't drop to us at 15th either.

Queen or Murray as well.

You can sell me on the other guys dropping, Simmons is an elite athlete, Derrick Johnson didn't have what he has.

JakeF 04-20-2020 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14918479)
You can sell me on the other guys dropping, Simmons is an elite athlete, Derrick Johnson didn't have what he has.

Some people think that Simmons might fall because he doesn't really have a position in the NFL. Myles Jack has been struggling to find a home too.

Mecca 04-20-2020 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14918492)
Some people think that Simmons might fall because he doesn't really have a position in the NFL. Myles Jack has been struggling to find a home too.

Dude if you go look at the athletic scores, Simmons rates as an elite athlete at 3 different positions.

Myles Jack is actually you know, really good, I wish our LB's struggled like that.

DaneMcCloud 04-20-2020 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14917827)
:facepalm:

Peter King literally broke the news that we were in love with Marcus Peters in his one and only mock days before the draft like this one...

He also broke the news on that ball of shit, Tyson Jackson

staylor26 04-20-2020 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 14918502)
He also broke the news on that ball of shit, Tyson Jackson

And as somebody discovered, he had us trading for Clark last year. But he knows nothing!

JakeF 04-20-2020 12:14 PM

I think it's fair to say that King has connections to the Chiefs. He has been right about some very specific things lately.

DaneMcCloud 04-20-2020 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14918469)
Everyone said that LB Derrick Johnson wouldn't drop to us at 15th either.

False

DaneMcCloud 04-20-2020 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14918492)
Some people think that Simmons might fall because he doesn't really have a position in the NFL.

LMAO

Mecca 04-20-2020 12:16 PM

If you want to compare a LB to DJ coming out, athletically and all that it's Queen, he's an uber athlete that is a bit undersized and isn't a big fan of taking on blockers as he goes around them and dips under...

It's not ****ing Simmons.

Dayze 04-20-2020 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 14918502)
He also broke the news on that ball of shit, Tyson Jackson

WOW..there's a name I haven't heard in forever.
Like, I literally completely forgot about Tyson. wasn't he like #3 overall or something.

JakeF 04-20-2020 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 14918516)
False

Well, i was here on this board when everyone was screaming that Johnson would NEVER still be on the board when we picked. I was here during the live draft and people were still saying he was long gone before we picked.

A lot of that has to do with the fatalistic attitude of we Chiefs' fans. :D

Mecca 04-20-2020 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14918529)
Well, i was here on this board when everyone was screaming that Johnson would NEVER still be on the board when we picked. I was here during the live draft and people were still saying he was long gone before we picked.

A lot of that has to do with the fatalistic attitude of we Chiefs' fans. :D

Over the years we've learned that off the ball LB's don't get picked super high if they have question marks.

Buckweath 04-20-2020 12:25 PM

This rumor reminds me of when the Chiefs were reportedly willing to trade up for Laquon Treadwell a few years ago. We never got to know if and how much that was true.

In this case, I can believe that Veach and Reid really like Ruggs but the chances that they make any significant trade up for him is extremely slim IMO.

It seems like a trade up would cost something like their 2nd round pick. I really don't see it.

Plus, from what I've read on Ruggs, he seems to bring a bit more of the same that Hill and Hardman bring to the table. It's not like he would bring a new dimension to the offense.

DaneMcCloud 04-20-2020 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14918529)
Well, i was here on this board when everyone was screaming that Johnson would NEVER still be on the board when we picked. I was here during the live draft and people were still saying he was long gone before we picked.

Prove it

BlackOp 04-20-2020 12:46 PM

They only way this makes sense is if they scouted next years crop of WRs and didn't see anyone they liked.

Veach has shown he is aggressive when there is a player he likes... both with money and draft resources. Speaks, Mathieu, Clark, Watkins...and Mahomes (Dorsey).

Obviously, there is a lot of communication with Reid and Spagnuolo. They know what they have and what they need...

Mahomes is Veach's professional crown jewel...the pick of a lifetime. He is always going to aggressively to supply him with weapons.. which as a fan is fun to experience.

He caught a lot of ridicule for saying "He's the best player I've ever seen" before Mahomes was even starting....so I think there is a little of "prove you wrong" vindication in him.

I think the deal would have to include next's years #32.

This move would free up $14 million next year (not resigning Watkins)...then you subtract an additional 2021 1st round contract. Money is going to be tight in the future...

5 years of Ruggs is, financially, about the cost of a single season of Watkins...there is a chance to get a 3rd comp if Watkins signs a big deal. Chiefs probably arent going to be big spenders next season...

The other boon is the Chiefs offense will be nasty this year....


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