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tredadda 10-06-2020 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15222222)
As soon as you do that, Belichick will throw something else at them.

And Reid will counter that. He is the offensive equivalent to Belechick. When has Belechick ever been able to shut down a Reid offense a full game since he’s been in KC?

scho63 10-06-2020 09:24 PM

If you create a special hybrid defense just for one game and Mahomes, you''ll probably have some success.

The question: how often can you do that?

Megatron96 10-06-2020 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 15224072)
If you create a special hybrid defense just for one game and Mahomes, you''ll probably have some success.

The question: how often can you do that?

Bill has always been good at that. His defenses are chameleon-like in that respect. Can't think of too many other DCs that have that ability from week to week.

RINGLEADER 10-06-2020 11:13 PM

Mahomes throws two balls three inches shorter and the Chiefs win 40-10.

Mahomes missed a few throws. It happens.

Nothing was “figured out.”

BWillie 10-06-2020 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15222206)
And its a good thing Mahomes has a photographic memory, so he'll know how to adjust next time.

Patrick Mahomes is a slightly below avg QB in terms of the Wonderlic score. Hes smarter than the avg NFL player but I think photographic memory is pushing it.

BWillie 10-06-2020 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15222756)
It's not that easy to run to the edge on 7 or 8 DB's if they're expecting it.

You HAVE to run up the middle to keep them off balance.

The only time you have to be a threat to run is 2nd and 2, 3rd and 2 and shit like that. Otherwise you are giving up expected yards and points. Some coach will come around soon and literally never run on 1st and 10 or 2nd and 10. There just is no reason to do it unless your QB is Sam Darnold.

Would not running EVER on 1st and 10 or 2nd and 10 lower your passing efficiency on those downs? Yes, slightly. But not enough to justify ever running instead of passing on those downs. Compare it to 3rd and 10 where every idiot in the building knows you are passing it EVERYTIME and teams are still more effective passing it on those downs than they are running it on 1st and 10. And the run on 1st and 10 even has the advantage of catching the defense off guard because they dont know if its a run or pass.

ChiefsFanatic 10-07-2020 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15223701)
I'm currently watching the NFL Network replay of the Browns/Cowboys game and it's a sad reminder of how incredible Kareem Hunt would be in this offense. You want to make Patrick's job easier? Give him a back like Hunt to complement CEH, especially as CEH learns on the job.



Hell, maybe even a guy like D'Ernest Johnson would get it done. I don't know.

I had the same thought when watching the highlights of that game.

Hunt is faster than CEH, makes more people miss and breaks more tackles, and I still say he has hips that move like Barry Sanders, giving him great balance and allowing for him to make cuts or moves on a dime. And we know he can be a receiver out of the backfield.

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MahomesMagic 10-07-2020 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15224248)
Patrick Mahomes is a slightly below avg QB in terms of the Wonderlic score. Hes smarter than the avg NFL player but I think photographic memory is pushing it.

Wonderlic is the most overrated thing ever.

Some QBs are just smarter and process faster. Mahomes is high end.

KCJake 10-07-2020 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 15222207)
The biggest concern I had was that they were only rushing 3 but Mahomie was running for his life quite often. That's no bueno

This is the problem. Biggest obstacle this Chiefs team will have to overcome this season. Mahomes is constantly under pressure. We talked about it a little in the off season. The offensive line is shit. It goes overlooked because Mahomes is so damn good.

BoxWine_Stouffers_TubeSock 10-07-2020 07:36 AM

This is the 3rd time in a row that Belichick managed to stifle us in the first half. The dude is just smarter than everybody else in terms of defence. If other teams were capable of pulling this off we would have been seeing more of it a long time ago. Bill is the only one who truly understands how to slow our offence down.

MahomesMagic 10-07-2020 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mahomes_Is_God (Post 15224477)
This is the 3rd time in a row that Belichick managed to stifle us in the first half. The dude is just smarter than everybody else in terms of defence. If other teams were capable of pulling this off we would have been seeing more of it a long time ago. Bill is the only one who truly understands how to slow our offence down.

That's why those who think Buffalo is winning the AFC East are crazy. Buffalo matches up terribly against NE.

Deberg_1990 10-07-2020 06:10 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sometimes it feels like the only guy who realizes how good the Chiefs are on offense is Belichick. He puts in defenses that are kinda funky because this KC team is unlike any offense around right now. Here&#39;s a couple interesting things the Pats did against the Chiefs on Monday: <a href="https://t.co/nngTuOTcGq">pic.twitter.com/nngTuOTcGq</a></p>&mdash; seth galina (@pff_seth) <a href="https://twitter.com/pff_seth/status/1313958303102361601?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RealSNR 10-07-2020 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15223701)
I'm currently watching the NFL Network replay of the Browns/Cowboys game and it's a sad reminder of how incredible Kareem Hunt would be in this offense. You want to make Patrick's job easier? Give him a back like Hunt to complement CEH, especially as CEH learns on the job.

Hell, maybe even a guy like D'Ernest Johnson would get it done. I don't know.

Your constant pining for Kareem Hunt is on par with OKChiefs/Red Dawg bitching about our CBs. You do realize that, right?

Megatron96 10-07-2020 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15224248)
Patrick Mahomes is a slightly below avg QB in terms of the Wonderlic score. Hes smarter than the avg NFL player but I think photographic memory is pushing it.

Mahomes was described as having 'eidetic memory'. Same as Favre. Well, maybe there's more than one type of eidetic memory, I don't know. But both were described as having it.

PAChiefsGuy 10-07-2020 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15222558)
It was the classic BB approach of "take away your opponent's best weapon."

In this game, that was our passing game.

They wanted us to run, because it slows the game down, eats clock, and removed "splash plays" by taking away Patrick's ability to create new windows to throw through.

On Offense, they wanted to run and eat clock as well, to keep him on the sideline.

It almost worked, and we still won by 16, because we are a complete team. Huge punts from Townsend, big plays when we needed them on offense, and ball-hawk secondary combined with timely sacks on throwing downs from the defense.

It can't all be on the offense every game.

We'll take these learnings and apply them to future games.

We won by 16 because Pats backup QBs suck. Otherwise who knows who wins that game.


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