How exactly is he every bit as good as Sammy yet still doesn't get the snaps even when Sammy is injured? Sammy is a lot better. Just made of glass

This is such horseshit. There has pretty much always been a role like Mecole’s in Andy’s offense whether it’s him, Tyreek, or DAT filling it. This is pseudo football expert bullshit that people like you just regurgitate to try and sound smart.

It’s not like Andy stops and writes plays up for Hardman in the middle of the game. It’s still HIS offense, therefor it “fits the natural flow”.

I’d like you to go through a Hardman highlight reel and tell me how all the plays he has made don’t “fit the natural flow of the offense”.

So ****ing dumb.

There’s a reason Andy’s offense is often described as “gimmicky” by opponents. It’s what he does. If you don’t think plays designed for Mecole “fit he natural flow” of Reid’s offense, then you clearly don’t ****ing understand Reid’s offense at all.

"Not clutch" but look at all these clutch plays

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Yeah **** the haters he has done good his first two years and I think he is going get better and make some more incredible plays that will be apart of championships for us.


That back of the endzone TD doesn't get any more clutch.


Has he made mistakes yes. Can he get better, also yes.

But it didn’t fit the natural flow of the offense so it doesn’t count!

Anyone said it doesn't? Like I said, hes a gadget player who can occasionally have the big game. But as of now, he's a gadget that hasn't shown that his role should be expanded despite numerous opportunities. Our #2 missed 6+ games last year and Robinson was the one who took up the majority of snaps Sammy left behind. And so far in camp, it looks like that will continue to he true next season.

You answered your own question

Remember Dexter McCluster? Other than his last year in KC with Reid, THAT'S a player who didn't fit the natural flow of the offense. Where he comes onto the field, and the defense already knew the ball is going to him. Yeah, the designed play might involve trickery and bullshit, but the end result was largely the same, because "Getting him the ball in space" isn't easy when the player in question is only suited for that one task. It didn't matter where we lined him up, either. Until McCluster figured out a damn route tree, he was absolutely a worthless gadget player.

Hardman getting the ball on trick plays isn't the same thing. The time period of him only coming in for trick plays on offense was relatively short, and while he was limited and his role was limited initially, he was still operating and working through the flow of the play. Just because a relative chunk of his production came on trick plays doesn't mean that's all he was good for.

Yeah, I agree. He's certainly leaps and bounds better than DAT and I really have no issues with Hardman at all and the role he plays in the offense. It'd be nice if he could evolve into more, but if he doesn't that doesn't make him bad.

Mark me down for also getting fooled on Parris Campbell


Edit holy shit

“The Athletic's Nate Taylor reports WR Mecole Hardman "has made sizable improvements, whether it’s his route running, his consistency when catching the ball or his overall demeanor on the practice fields."

Probably hope for more than Pro Bowl return specialist, yeah. But like I say, he's fine, hopefully he takes a step forward, if he doesn't it's not the end of the world.

Thank you for your warm welcome.

Yeah you may be right. I meant more he hadn't yet imo, but we live in hope.

Probably hope for more than Pro Bowl return specialist, yeah. But like I say, he's fine, hopefully he takes a step forward, if he doesn't it's not the end of the world.

Thank you for your warm welcome.

That’s great to hear.

He looks different too. Seems like added a little more muscle.