Seems like more than enough to see the Chiefs pick in the top 10 of next year's draft. You pass!

Yeah, I'm not bugging out into the wild. That shit ain't happening. Not here.

If shit gets real in town, I'm loading the kids up and heading to the farm, generators enough to make life happen and probably the most defensible place I can get to, plus all the tools I need.

Society folds up, I'm rustling some cows from a feedyard and hoping for the best. But I'm staying right here until some semblance of a society comes back online.

If society folds up for the long term most people are epic ****ed. If I can defend my place, I can last longer than most.

Nah, I don't agree with this . A large lake or really any lake would be hard to fish out but most of the city folks would die off quickly anyway so there wouldn't be that much pressure on fishing. How many city folks even have a fishing pole?? City folks will burn all their gas driving around town looking for supplies. Never even make it to a lake.

200 cigars, a couple gallons of booze and a fleshlight with extra batteries.

I'm all set.

Exactly. Why waste the ammo defending, when you can use less being on the offensive.

You're prolly just joking, but if not thats a scuzzy attitude to have... also keep in mind that people who prepare are likely to have you badly outgunned

An excellent book about the shit hitting the fan is One Second After, by William Forstchen. His book describes life after an EMP event. In his book, the EMP was from a deliberate attack. While that is a logical possibility, I believe that is highly unlikely. We are far more likely to get an EMP from a Carrington event. Foratchen’s book, then, serves as a warning of what to consider.

One recent article on geological evidence showing that Carrington events are more common and potentially far larger than previously thought:

https://astronomy.com/news/2021/09/u...flares-can-get

There was a show on TV called Doomsday Preppers that showed people who are stockpiling food, water, weapons and whatever else they think is necessary in the event basic services should fail and society turns chaotic.
Most all of them lived way out in the sticks well away from the city.

Then they would give a grade on how well they were prepared at the end of the show.

It taught me that I as well as most people who think they are prepared for the worst woefully fall short of where they should be.

**** this thread. Now I'm paranoid and about to order thousands of dollars worth of equipment/supplies.

This is absolutely true. I’m not really a prepper, although I have some supplies to last a few weeks in the event of n earthquake. However, I know that if the grid goes down for whatever reason, life would get very bad very quickly. My state is far enough away that it has its own grid so a failure in NY that brings down the grid in the northeast would not affect me, which is good. But a massive Carrington event in today’s world? I would expect de-population of about 60+% in this country. Oddly, the less technologically reliant a country or group is, the greater their survivability percentage.

I read all three of John Matherson books that you mentioned earlier, but yeah I'm about as prepared as you and figure if SHTF I'm about as screwed as everyone else in the country. It will be Neechs last stand at my household I'm afraid.

Got nothing here. Best if you just keep moving on.

I remember that show on National Geographic, watched maybe 5-6 of them

And you're right, most people (including me) really aren't as prepared for an emergency as they'd like to think... particularly the food aspect of it

I've got enough rice, beans and canned goods for maybe two months tops

IIRC you're a retired KC detective, so we know you're armed and well trained... don't worry about me!

That’s kind of my thinking. To adequately prepare for something like a world-wide Carrington Event would literally be life-consuming. You have to measure the risk of harm and the magnitude of harm and while the magnitude would be tremendous, the risk of a massive EMP doesn’t appear to justify the preparation necessary unless I was already massively wealthy.

An earthquake, though, is much more probable where I am. I figure if there’s another bad earthquake (and I’ve lived through a 7.2, which was terrifying, but it wasn’t the 9.1 of the Good Friday earthquake), it would have massive disruptions here but I think supply chains and transportation would be running, even if on a limited schedule, within 2-3 weeks tops. So preparing for that possibility does not require nearly the commitment as it does to prepare for a total grid-down SHTF moment.