Originally Posted by Coach (Post 16661276)

And just like that @Wisconsin_Chief, Lions has hit the 6-win barrier. I had them going 6, so at least I got that nailed, with 4 games left to play.

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 16661379)

Yeah, they look damn impressive. I’m honestly happy for their fans and for Jared Goff. They legitimately looked like a better team than Minnesota today. They play their asses off, too.

They’ll far surpass that 6 win total. I’ll be shocked if they don’t finish at least 9-8.

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 16536319)

It's more so of repairing the culture which was badly needed in Detroit when Campbell arrived. Their roster was completely gutted a year ago, and Detroit has made a very clear effort to fill those spots with young, developmental pieces who are still learning through mistakes.

I should note that their offense is pretty good. They are 8th in the NFL on Rushing Yards per game, 7th in the NFL on Passing Yards per game, and 3rd in the NFL at Points per game. At this stage, they are still investing in developing their youth and they're trying to weather the injury storms.

Their biggest issue is their defense as they're giving up 34 points per game. That is last in the NFL. If they have a middle of the pack scoring defense, their record would have been better than 1-4.

I think Detroit will finish with 6 wins.

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16088750)

Dude has coached like 15 years and has NEVER had a losing season. He now has ridded himself of the corpse that is Ben Roethlisberger. I think he's gonna be there for a while.

Originally Posted by the steam (Post 16661950)

He needed to be gone like 5 years ago...In the last 12 years the Steelers have 3 playoff wins. Like Bradshaw said he's a glorified cheerleader. He had success early because his coordinators were Arians and Lebeau. They were the ones running the show.

I don't care about always being 500 or making the playoffs. In the NFL all that means is you don't suck. He is a lousy coach

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16662462)

Seriously?

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16662491)

Could be a possible landing spot for EB, hopefully

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16662482)

Yeah, Tomlin is a fantastic coach.



If Pittsburgh is dumb enough to let him go (they aren't), he will have a job in SECONDS.



Some teams would fire a coach to get a chance to bring Tomlin in if they had to.

Originally Posted by the steam (Post 16661950)

He needed to be gone like 5 years ago...In the last 12 years the Steelers have 3 playoff wins. Like Bradshaw said he's a glorified cheerleader. He had success early because his coordinators were Arians and Lebeau. They were the ones running the show.

I don't care about always being 500 or making the playoffs. In the NFL all that means is you don't suck. He is a lousy coach

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 16662595)

Like Andy Reid in Philly, sometimes both the head coach and the team need to move on from each other. Coaches can stay in one place too long.

But, while I think Tomlin is a better than average head coach, I think he and Bellicheat have something in common, and that is they were clearly propped up by a HOF quarterback.

Tomlin took over a team that won the SB. He didn't build the team up from really bad seasons. He started his career with a HOF quarterback, and now that that QB is no longer with the team, he is struggling to win at the same rate.

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Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 16662820)

Eh, Belichick is still a defensive mastermind and proved it in multiple tenures before NE. And his first three Super Bowl wins were when Brady was a game manager. Brady wasn't the driving point of those teams. The defense was.

Of course, all the Super Bowl wins with Brady were top 10 defenses.

Tomlin isn't anything close to that.