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-King- 08-29-2022 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16434773)
We should all take this moment to point and laugh at the 49ers for refusing to move the **** on from Garropolo and almost outright sabotaging poor Lance before he even gets the chance to start properly.

They know Lance isn't good. Either he shocks everybody including his coaches and plays well or he's replaced by week 6.

Marcellus 08-29-2022 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16435258)
They know Lance isn't good. Either he shocks everybody including his coaches and plays well or he's replaced by week 6.

From what I can tell he hasn’t been good preseason and they have a stout defense. Perfect scenario for a QB like Jimmy. Just like in 2019.

Weird they decided to hitch the wagon to Lance.

Chief Roundup 08-29-2022 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16435249)
What team is going to watch Kannards preseason tape and put them on their 53? I think he easily makes the practice squad.

If we release/cut him he can be signed to any team's PS. We are 28th, I think, on the waiver priority.

Dunerdr 08-29-2022 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16435267)
From what I can tell he hasn’t been good preseason and they have a stout defense. Perfect scenario for a QB like Jimmy. Just like in 2019.

Weird they decided to hitch the wagon to Lance.

It never made sense to anyone but then. The idea of a gunslinger sounds good. But he barely had any experience. Definitely nothing that justifies trading the farm weeks before the draft.

Pitt Gorilla 08-29-2022 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16435249)
What team is going to watch Kannards preseason tape and put them on their 53? I think he easily makes the practice squad.

I asked the very same question earlier in this thread and didn't get a response. Nobody is putting that guy on their 53.

-King- 08-29-2022 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 16435278)
If we release/cut him he can be signed to any team's PS. We are 28th, I think, on the waiver priority.

Any team that picks him up off waivers has to put him on their 53.

RealSNR 08-29-2022 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 16435138)
Niang is injured so writing him off right now would be stupid when he still has three years of low pay on his contract. Also those folks writing off Kinnard need to relax.. he was actually decent against the packers according chiefs media on twitter who watched the film so again letting a young guy with upside go would be naive. I highly doubt Prince gets snapped up if released and hopefully he can go back on the practice squad if needed.

I get this team has had success with doing the one-year 53-man roster stash with OL guys who have physical traits and a lot of potential but don't quite know how to put it together. That's how we wound up with LDT, who didn't exactly click the greatest in his first preseason. We've also had some players who just wasted our time, though, like Kahlil McKenzie.

I think if Prince is actually that good, it's worth having him on the team and rolling the dice that Kinnard won't get signed off of waivers before we can practice squad him. In LDT and McKenzie's case, who was the steady guy we were trying to figure out if we should keep? ****ing David Mims? If Prince is David Mims, then no, we should stash Kinnard. That doesn't seem to be the case here, though.

BigRedChief 08-29-2022 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16435359)
I asked the very same question earlier in this thread and didn't get a response. Nobody is putting that guy on their 53.

that may be true but Kinnard is a lock to make the roster and team.

RealSNR 08-29-2022 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16435397)
that may be true but Kinnard is a lock to make the roster and team.

Lol no he's not.

He MIGHT make the roster, but he's far from a lock.

Pitt Gorilla 08-29-2022 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16435397)
that may be true but Kinnard is a lock to make the roster and team.

You may be right, but I certainly don't see him as a lock. From the OP, who are you removing to make him a "lock"?

oldman 08-29-2022 11:04 PM

I agree about keeping Prince over Kinnard. Kinnard may very well develop into a passable RT, but it's not this year. The other thing you have to look at is the waiver period is only 24 hours. After that, it doesn't matter where we stand in line.

That said, I think there still may be some new faces on the team before the 1st game.

Wilson8 08-30-2022 02:09 AM

Some contracts and how that could affect Chiefs roster decisions -

QB Chad Henne is either $2M (overthecap.com) or $3.265M (spotrac.com) of dead money if cut. All money guaranteed.
Chiefs try to trade Shane Buechele and if that does not work, they waive and try to sign to Practice Squad.

LB Jermaine Carter Jr. will cost $1.77M to cut or $735K of dead money to trade with a savings of $1.035M
Chiefs make an effort to trade but probably cut and have the $1.77M of dead money.

RB Ronald Jones II would cost $750K of dead money to cut and $250 to trade.
Unless a better RB option emerges for Chiefs, Jones will make 53-man roster.

DT Taylor Stallworth will cost $300K of dead money to release and they save $747K. Trading would save $1,047,500. Chiefs try to trade or release.

OT Darian Kinnard will cost $358,404 of dead money and they would save $436,197. A trade would result in the same cap numbers.
Kinnard will be waived and maybe signed to Practice Squad.

DE Joshua Kaindoh being waived would result in $374,508 of dead money and a savings of $575,328.
DE Malik Herring being waived would result in $16,667 of dead money and a savings of $696,666
Chiefs will make a decision on value of keeping either DE or look for other options.

UChieffyBugger 08-30-2022 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16435393)
I get this team has had success with doing the one-year 53-man roster stash with OL guys who have physical traits and a lot of potential but don't quite know how to put it together. That's how we wound up with LDT, who didn't exactly click the greatest in his first preseason. We've also had some players who just wasted our time, though, like Kahlil McKenzie.

I think if Prince is actually that good, it's worth having him on the team and rolling the dice that Kinnard won't get signed off of waivers before we can practice squad him. In LDT and McKenzie's case, who was the steady guy we were trying to figure out if we should keep? ****ing David Mims? If Prince is David Mims, then no, we should stash Kinnard. That doesn't seem to be the case here, though.

I like Prince but imo there's no point in keeping him and Christian as they are effectively the same level of player. Kinnard showed improvement in the packers game and that 4 year cost controlled contract has to count for something. How many tackles do we have under contract for more than one year? Only Kinnard? That has to be a factor too.

Bob Dole 08-30-2022 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16435267)
From what I can tell he hasn’t been good preseason and they have a stout defense. Perfect scenario for a QB like Jimmy. Just like in 2019.

Weird they decided to hitch the wagon to Lance.

I read yesterday Jimmy signed a one year deal.

ChiTown 08-30-2022 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16435397)
that may be true but Kinnard is a lock to make the roster and team.

Wait, are you saying he’s a lock to make the 53? I’d like to hear that reasoning because I strongly disagree that he’s a lock.


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