Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16586220)

You are reading way too much into the breakdown of what conference the teams are from. They have had tight games against teams that typically play them tight with the exception of the Raiders but it was a division game so they are always a challenge.

The fact is they have the best offense in football so if they are "struggling" they are doing that better than any other team in the NFL.

No they aren't perfect, Mahomes isn't perfect, but usually when they aren't scoring its mostly self inflicted. Last night they just got outplayed up front. Mahomes was pressured 22 times. So that's about 1/3rd of his drop backs and he actually stood in the pocket more than usual.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16586205)

I mean, he threw 68 passes. Yeah, he had alot of yards.

When we talk about the Chiefs defense, yards don't matter points do.

Now yards matter?

He didn't play a good game and I'd guarantee he'd be the first to tell you so.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16586242)

Yards mattered in this game (offensively) because it allowed KC to keep TEN pinned deep in their own half of the field. That matters when that offense is having as much trouble as they were having just moving the ball into scoring position.


As for our defense, i don't know how anyone can complain today about the job they did yesterday. Outside of about 6 plays, they were dominant.

And I call BS on whoever said that stupid shit about Tannehill being able to win that game. He's been marginally better than Willis this season, and Tannehill never escapes the rushes that Willis escaped last night.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16586236)

Now you're using TD's. Yes, scores matter.

But 14 points?

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16586194)

I think Karlaftis will be fine. He is trying to chain moves together, as evidenced by that clip I posted a few days ago. He's about a step slow going from one move to the next, imo.

So he's been about a step to a step and a half away from actually getting some sacks this season. That can be cleaned up.

In the meantime, he's obviously been getting quite a few pressures, and he's been pretty solid vs. the run so far. He even made a couple last night, as I recall. A really nice one where he was supposed to be rushing, but recognized that the ball went to the RB (not Henry), reversed himself and made the tackle for just a two or three yard gain.

He'll be fine.

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16586241)

"Best offense in football" is like the tallest midget right now. Tom Brady was correct a few weeks ago when he said there's a ton of ugly football being played in the NFL these days. The Chiefs are part of that, with 5 of 8 games being very ugly performances on the offensive side of the ball. Defenses are playing well this year and refs are messing up the flow up the game for many teams. Combine those two factors and it's a lot of ugly football if you aren't a defensive coach/player right now.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16585809)

Was Fortson dinged up or just a gameday inactive?

Because the latter is a mistake, IMO. Especially when it was just so you could have the privilege of having TWO "Dave Toub Memorial Special Team Scrubs' on the roster. 3 if you count Cochrane.

I mean lord, do you REALLY need Kemp? FFS, stop acting like Gunner is as hard to play as ****ing QB is. Or as critical.

If you are hell bent on keeping Lammons on this team, you can't also be sitting guys like Fortson so you can play Kemp. It's getting unreasonable, IMO.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16585907)

I thought Andy said he got hurt early in the SF game and had a contused thigh or something that he played through for the rest of the game. Maybe he was talking about someone else, but I thought he was talking about Fortson.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16586161)

Everyone wants to trash this OL.

God damn it, the QB needs to take some of the heat on this. Yeah, you got hit a few times. Shit happens.

Stand in there and throw the football to the guys getting open.

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16586272)

I'm starting to get interested in the idea of stealing a star FA RB to round out our attack this offseason. Saquan's up for a contract this offseason, Kamara could become available after next year. Our passing attack is unstoppable, imagine if we also had an A running game!

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16586262)

Dude I'm not trying to homer out here or anything but I just cant keep having a conversation where 5 of 8 games the offense has been shit yet almost halfway through the season KC has the most efficient offense in the NFL and its not even marginally close. The gap between KC and Buffalo (#2) is as big as the gap between Buffalo and the #16 offense.

I mean mother of God those other 3 games were really really really powerful by your argument.

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16586272)

I'm starting to get interested in the idea of stealing a star FA RB to round out our attack this offseason. Saquan's up for a contract this offseason, Kamara could become available after next year. Our passing attack is unstoppable, imagine if we also had an A running game!

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 16586269)

Hip.

I need to rewatch, but that's not the description I remember seeing. I thought he held on in the pocket longer than I wanted, but most times, he knew exactly when the pressure was coming and got rid of it.

I was profoundly impressed by Mahomes performance from the couch.

Admittedly I am open to being an idiot here. I was very much not watching for analytical review, I was an emotional wreck.

Originally Posted by JohnnyV13 (Post 16586251)

People here forget that Justin Houson didn't get a sack until his 12th game of his rookie season, when he broke out for 3. He still only got 5.5 total in 2011.

Thing is, Houston didn't have the spotlight of being a 1st round pick, and the 2011 Chiefs sucked. They had a lot more things to complain about instead of lack of production from a 3rd round rookie pick.