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Megatron96 03-18-2023 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 16863044)
Good grief, can we get off this narrative??? He's a malcontent with a huge salary that some desperate team will overpay for, just not us. He'd probably want a new contract for even more cash. Veach can find a better fit than him if we want to build for not only 2023, but 2024-6 and beyond. As long as PMII is QB1 we'll be OK.

Curious, where this narrative comes from?

And his salary isn't even that "huge."

chiefforlife 03-18-2023 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 16863044)
Good grief, can we get off this narrative??? He's a malcontent with a huge salary that some desperate team will overpay for, just not us. He'd probably want a new contract for even more cash. Veach can find a better fit than him if we want to build for not only 2023, but 2024-6 and beyond. As long as PMII is QB1 we'll be OK.

Malcontent, WRONG. He said himself he did NOT think he would be traded from Houston. He did not ask to be traded and was fine playing there despite their record. He was fine playing in Arizona with an even worse record but now that they are rebuilding he doesnt want to waste the last few years of his career. It makes sense for him and Arizona to part ways.

Huge Salary, WRONG. He has two years left on his contract at 19 and 14 so 33. So 2 year average of 16.5, very reasonable for a top WR. He has said he's willing to work on that even for the right team. He wants to win!

Veach is building for EVERY year. He was after JuJu for two years, got him and a Lombardi then let him go. Now he will find another, probably several.

No one knows if we will get Hopkins but to just dismiss the possibility is not smart. Veach is SMART.

Rainbarrel 03-18-2023 01:55 PM

No salary equal to or over this:

Kelce's contract is a four-year, $57.25 million deal that includes $22.75 million in guarantees. His average annual salary is $14.313 million, and the contract contained no signing bonus

chiefforlife 03-18-2023 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 16863048)
They were speculating on SIRIUS today that we were going after Tunsil and letting Lawaan play RT. Lawaan said he would gladly play RT. Protecting our 500 million dollar man was priority

Assuming you mean Jawaan and amazing as that line would be, I agree that it just ties up to much Cap. Cant see Veach doing that but if he did, Id be pretty psyched!

BWillie 03-18-2023 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 16863065)
No salary equal to or over this:

Kelce's contract is a four-year, $57.25 million deal that includes $22.75 million in guarantees. His average annual salary is $14.313 million, and the contract contained no signing bonus

That's such a good deal. Yet somehow fat olineman make more than him

Direckshun 03-18-2023 05:13 PM

There are so many things this team could do it wouldn’t surprise me.

They could trade for Hopkins. They could secure OBJ. Elijah Moore could be snagged for pennies on the dollar if he wants out from the Jets after they sign Cobb.

They could do that AND aggressively move up. For Quentin Johnson. Maybe they have word that Jalen Carter will fall to 12 or something crazy. Myles Murphy may fall to 18. Nolan Smith, Darnell Wright, even Bijan Robinson or Brian Branch.

They paid retail for a LT. Everything else they are getting for value.

They can still make a splash with a Jones extension and then get hyperaggressive in the draft. They could trade Willie Gay and Clyde Edwards-Helaire. They could trade Noah Gray. They could notch an additional second day pick and groom Luke Musgrave into the Kelce heir.

It can still get totally nuts.

Wisconsin_Chief 03-18-2023 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16863501)
There are so many things this team could do it wouldn’t surprise me.

They could trade for Hopkins. They could secure OBJ. Elijah Moore could be snagged for pennies on the dollar if he wants out from the Jets after they sign Cobb.

They could do that AND aggressively move up. For Quentin Johnson. Maybe they have word that Jalen Carter will fall to 12 or something crazy. Myles Murphy may fall to 18. Nolan Smith, Darnell Wright, even Bijan Robinson or Brian Branch.

They paid retail for a LT. Everything else they are getting for value.

They can still make a splash with a Jones extension and then get hyperaggressive in the draft. They could trade Willie Gay and Clyde Edwards-Helaire. They could trade Noah Gray. They could notch an additional second day pick and groom Luke Musgrave into the Kelce heir.

It can still get totally nuts.

Veach just has so many options. Post draft, there will be a pool of veterans begging to come to KC to basically save their careers like what used to happen for the Patriots. We won’t have holes. Whatever we don’t get in the draft will be filled with the Carlos Dunlap and Jerick McKinnon types. Reid & the staff will get the best out of all of them and we’ll win 14 games.

Ho hum. Yeah, I said it. This team ho hums itself to 14 wins. It’s not even hard anymore. This offseason isn’t moving the needle at all, if anything the Chiefs D has gotten drastically better and the offense will be fine because Superman wears #15, and we also have Lex Luthor as our HC. How does anyone really stand a chance?

Direckshun 03-18-2023 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 16863537)
Veach just has so many options. Post draft, there will be a pool of veterans begging to come to KC to basically save their careers like what used to happen for the Patriots. We won’t have holes. Whatever we don’t get in the draft will be filled with the Carlos Dunlap and Jerick McKinnon types. Reid & the staff will get the best out of all of them and we’ll win 14 games.

Ho hum. Yeah, I said it. This team ho hums itself to 14 wins. It’s not even hard anymore. This offseason isn’t moving the needle at all, if anything the Chiefs D has gotten drastically better and the offense will be fine because Superman wears #15, and we also have Lex Luthor as our HC. How does anyone really stand a chance?

I do think everybody may be sleeping on the fact that Mahomes is probably entering his prime this year. I know he’s regarded as the best, but I think we’re about to see exactly how much better he is than everybody else.

Veach is going to notch more weapons for him, now, during the draft, and like you said, we’ll after the draft. He’s going to add tackle depth. And he’s going to have the resources left over to add a promising pass rusher (or two) and stock the cabinet at DT.

Riddick and Mahomes both told us one way or another that a party was coming. I truly believe it is.

What if the Chiefs make zero major additions at this point and have even an average draft? They’re probably 12-5 with a Top 2 seed in the AFC. But with what Veach can do, I agree with a 14 win prediction.

And this is just all general talent level. But it’s not going to matter, because when January rolls around, I simply don’t think you can ever pick against Mahomes again so long as he’s reasonably healthy.

If Veach follows through, there is a legit chance at a threepeat. They just won the Super Bowl in a retooling year with a one legged Mahomes!

DenverChief 03-18-2023 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16863052)
Doesn't feel right to me. We probably aren't throwing nearly $40M/yr at our OTs. Seems like overpaying for potential production. And it's just not necessary. Pat's not middle-aged Brady/Manning/Ryan. He can help himself get out of trouble. And we just don't run enough to make the investment in top-tier/elite OTs worth the cap space. Reliable and explosive weapons are more important at this stage of his career.

I’d love to see more Pacheco outside pitches and sweeps.


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