Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16877114)

Reek had the advantage of speed/quickness, so he didn't have to be a great route-runner to get open. that quickness allowed him to avoid getting jammed and then he could just run by guys. He developed his release/stem/breaks as his career went on. But as a speed WR. He never had to be as precise about his footwork or his hand-fighting technique like a Larry Fitzgerald/Jerry Rice or more normal-speed WR.

'Normal' WRs have to have or acquire those kinds of skills or their time is short in the NFL. Skyy has nice footwork (still needs work, but he's further ahead than Hardman is right now) but he showed troubles getting off jams. I suspect he's working on that right now.

I'm not holding my breath as far as the Ross' are concerned. Any production Andy gets out of them will just be icing on the cake. doubt Andy can count on anything there.

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 16877162)

another reason that we never seem to draft of develop a WR, or Reid with the Eagles is because it's probably a position that easier to tell if they are going to be good or not and the top talents are gone a lot by the 2nd round. Usually the top 20 in the first. I was watching some video of the best WR's from each round.

MVS is one of the greatest 5th round pick WR's of all time, for example.

Andy Reid is a winner and doesn't often get a draft pick in the top 15.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16877165)

Okay, and I agree with everything you just said.

But that only makes signing a solid WR that much more imperative, right? If we already know that we're probably not going to draft such a player because we never draft high enough, and the WRs that we do draft are less likely to develop into a top-tier WR, then it behooves us to sign one in FA, right? Otherwise, before you know it, the WR room is filled 9 deep with limited, middling, inconsistent WRs that can only be developed so much. How many SBs can we win with a roomful of MVS?

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16877077)

Hell, I compared Skyy to Edelman when he was drafted. He may end up being similar, though I doubt he'll ever be as good. But 75-80% of Edelman would be worthwhile.

i disagree that KC's OL was better than PHI's. Strike that; that's not what you said. Yes, the KC OL did outplay PHI's OL in the SB. Some luck was involved. Just the fact that Wylie was our starting RT tells you something about how lucky we got. Field conditions helped our OL quite a bit in the SB, in particular Wylie's performance, but also OBJ's.

Also, I think Andy schemed up the right mix of moving pockets, chips, rushes (in the 2nd half), etc. to keep the PHI DL guessing instead of being able to pin their ears back on every snap. And of course they got extremely unlucky with the number and frequency of slipping with PHI EDGEs. 5-6 fewer slips by certain guys might've changed the outcome of the game.

The lack of reliable productive depth is concerning, I think to anyone that can read the stats of our current WR room. No, we don't need a true 1, but a solid 2 I think is absolutely necessary to get back to the SB. But maybe that's just me.

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 16877168)

ya, I'd be more comfortable with getting a good vet WR too.

There has to be a good reason why they didn't get anybody (yet).

We are really mainly losing JuJu, Watson was a good 4th/5th WR and did some things but you can probably get what he did with one of the Ross's or a draft pick. Hardman was out for the last half of the year including the playoffs and they were fine without.

Mahomes is so good at spreading the ball around that it doesn't make me that worried about not having a star WR. The thing that worries me is the injuries to Toney because he probably could develop into a phenom.

I'm sure they have a plan though, we just have to see what it is.