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Coogs 08-25-2023 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17073582)
It’s kinda sad. Now we’re just waiting for it to drop on Twitter. You know it’s coming.

What? An extention? A trade? News of the holdout continuing? What's coming that we already know?

TEX 08-25-2023 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17073603)
What if Jones suffers a season ending injury week 1? How would that be different than him sitting out or being on another team?

Depends on if he chose to get injured.

Straight, No Chaser 08-26-2023 08:09 AM

Bears report leaked to influence negotiations. Mark it down: Chris retires a Chief.

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Skyy God 08-26-2023 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17073582)
It’s kinda sad. Now we’re just waiting for it to drop on Twitter. You know it’s coming.

Good.

Ship his irrational, poor vibes ass out of town.

SDChiefs 08-26-2023 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17073354)
I just really wanna know when Quinnen Williams turned into an afterthought in these discussions.

Quinnen Williams is WAY closer to Chris Jones than Chris Jones is to the Aaron Donald that 'earned' that contract.

Aaron Donald was neck and neck with Reggie White in terms of pure dominance from the DT position. I mean he was an absolute monster at his apex. His stretch from 2017 to 2020 has to be close to the most dominant stretch of DL play ever. He was THAT good.

Jones is very very good. Again, HoF at his peak. But not Mount Rushmore of Defensive Linemen at his peak. And someday, if not already, Quinnen Williams will be that 'very very good' level of player in his own right, IMO.

And yet we just keep seeing writers say "well he's the closest the league has to Donald..."

He's great. But he's not that close to being Aaron Donald. And Quinnen Williams ain't that far from being Chris Jones. Jones isn't THAT much better than Hargrave was last year. He might not have been at ALL better than Dexter Lawrence was.

And while Jones was swinging out to the edge for some of his productivity (about 20% of his snaps there), Williams wasn't ever doing it. And Dexter Lawrence did ALL of his work from the damn A gap, which is absolutely bonkers. 63 pressures while being used only in the A/B gaps (and about 4-1 in the A gap) just doesn't happen.

Lawrence and Williams signed reasonable deals and have very VERY strong cases to make that they're more valuable assets over the next 4 seasons than Jones will be. And yet every damn article out there wants to act like Jones is Peak Donald 2.0.

Reggie White was a DE.

DJ's left nut 08-26-2023 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SDChiefs (Post 17074750)
Reggie White was a DE.

He was both.

He played DT at Tennessee and in the NFL he got moved him inside/outside a lot.

Like I said, he was something of a hybrid player. He had plenty of snaps from the 1 and 3 techniques. White, when he dropped inside, could do the same shit that Donald did. He was an absolute monster.


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