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FloridaMan88 12-11-2023 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 17273750)
No one here can honestly believe that out of the 25,172 offensive snaps of Reid's career, this is the first time one of his players has lined up offsides on offense. That's ludicrous.

Out of 25,000+ offensive snaps with Andy Reid as a HC, this is the most embarrassingly undisciplined and untalented WR group he's put on the field.

And that's quite a statement considering the dog shit WR groups he had in his early Philly and early KC years.

Eleazar 12-11-2023 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 17273750)
No one here can honestly believe that out of the 25,172 offensive snaps of Reid's career, this is the first time one of his players has lined up offsides on offense. That's ludicrous.

Can you remember another instance of a player on offense lined up that far offside?

louie aguiar 12-11-2023 10:59 AM

FWIW it appears KT did not check with the line judge

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All 22 angle of the Kelce lateral/Toney offside play. Doesn&#39;t appear Toney once checks with the sideline judge on his side from this.<br><br>Also amazing job still from Kelce finding him in space. <a href="https://t.co/UyiVABuBSp">pic.twitter.com/UyiVABuBSp</a></p>&mdash; Shaun Newkirk (@Shauncore) <a href="https://twitter.com/Shauncore/status/1734071439869788421?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

SupDock 12-11-2023 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 17273763)
Can you remember another instance of a player on offense lined up that far offside?

I also read that it has been called 11 times this season.

wachashi 12-11-2023 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 17273754)
If there were zero advantage to lining up on the opposite side of the ball, it wouldn't be ****ing illegal to do so.

Good grief, guys.

Yeah "players can line however they want" is not the argument that I'm making, so I'm not sure why you quoted me.

SupDock 12-11-2023 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 17273773)
FWIW it appears KT did not check with the line judge

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All 22 angle of the Kelce lateral/Toney offside play. Doesn&#39;t appear Toney once checks with the sideline judge on his side from this.<br><br>Also amazing job still from Kelce finding him in space. <a href="https://t.co/UyiVABuBSp">pic.twitter.com/UyiVABuBSp</a></p>&mdash; Shaun Newkirk (@Shauncore) <a href="https://twitter.com/Shauncore/status/1734071439869788421?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That play was a thing of beauty. What a tragedy

OnTheWarpath15 12-11-2023 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 17273779)
Yeah "players can line however they want" is not the argument that I'm making, so I'm not sure why you quoted me.

Well then you're doing a piss-poor job of making whatever your argument is, because you flat out say that Toney lining up a full yard ahead of where he should be isn't an advantage.

Which is nonsense.

GloryDayz 12-11-2023 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17273662)
Look at Taylor. They could've easily called him for illegal formation as well. I do not understand why these mistakes are being repeated on a weekly basis but the entire offensive coaching staff needs to get their collective shit together and get this ****ery under control instead of whining about the refs being mean.

Both Toney and Taylor need to be gone now, if we bench them maybe the NFL might quit picking on us.

Eleazar 12-11-2023 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 17273778)
I also read that it has been called 11 times this season.

Yeah, it's a point of emphasis this year, but I don't remember ever seeing an offensive player lined up beyond the fooball. He's not even lined up in the neutral zone, his (empty) head is lined up on the defensive side of the ball.

tredadda 12-11-2023 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17273760)
Out of 25,000+ offensive snaps with Andy Reid as a HC, this is the most embarrassingly undisciplined and untalented WR group he's put on the field.

And that's quite a statement considering the dog shit WR groups he had in his early Philly and early KC years.

You think this WR group is worse than the year without a WR TD group?

FloridaMan88 12-11-2023 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17273797)
You think this WR group is worse than the year without a WR TD group?

They are just as bad.

That WR group could at least use the excuse that they had a QB who refused to look or throw downfield in Alex Smiff.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 12-11-2023 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 17273796)
Yeah, it's a point of emphasis this year, but I don't remember ever seeing an offensive player lined up beyond the fooball. He's not even lined up in the neutral zone, his (empty) head is lined up on the defensive side of the ball.

Bruh…. His whole body except his back leg is lined up past the ball

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This photo removes all doubt. 19 was blatantly offside. <a href="https://t.co/KD0R0Rvguy">pic.twitter.com/KD0R0Rvguy</a></p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1734210600471822339?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

YayMike 12-11-2023 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 17273782)
That play was a thing of beauty. What a tragedy

And on the day that the Music City Miracle man passes....

Oh well. onto next week. If we don't absolutely slaughter the Patriots with all this rage and fury built up from this ...

scho63 12-11-2023 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 17272909)
Being 6” offside has literally no effect on the play which is why it is almost never called. The hold on Juju in the Super Bowl had an impact on what the play could be. It’s a stupid comparison. Toney also checked with the referee before the snap. KC was robbed of a TD by Cheffer’s crew. Not sure they win the game because Buffalo would have had a shot to go down and win it, but the call was bullshit.

Double check the new overhead picks released today - he was a good 2 feet offsides. Not even close. :shake:

louie aguiar 12-11-2023 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 17273786)
Both Toney and Taylor need to be gone now, if we bench them maybe the NFL might quit picking on us.

We’re stuck with Taylor for at least another year. That contract is looking pretty bad right now. It’s crazy to me that he’s still making the same mistakes this far into the season. Hindsight is 20/20 but we probably would have been better off re-upping with Wylie and using the $ saved in a receiver.


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