So the moron is the one defending the best QB who ever lived and not the one trashing him because of a loss in a meaningless November game, eh?

I wonder how this is gonna play out going forward.

Obviously the idea Allen has been better this decade. It’s a terrible take not based on wins, passer rating, QBR, or really anything.

Patrick Mahomes is never and will never be the reason the offense struggles. Well, if he plays until he is 50, his age may become a factor.

Yes, it appears his play, and decision making, and pocket presence is bad this year, but is Mahomes the reason Mahomes is playing poorly?

Come on man, he is the greatest QB of all-time. He did not suddenly forget how to play QB at a high level.

For me, the reason for his poor play is the offensive line, and injuries. And the tackles have been bad, but I believe it is the lack of confidence in his line and his injured ankle (I bet it's about 85% at this point, but nowhere near 100%) and his fear of further injury, that has caused him to fall short of his high standard of play. I feel like he is frustrated that his line continues to be the reason he gets hurt.

Again, I admit he has not played his best, but I just will never blame Mahomes because he threw for 5,000 yards and 50 TDs in his first season as a starter, and until now has established himself as the GOAT in most of our eyes.

How do you blame him for anything? Yeah, he can throw a bad pick, etc. but I will always believe that any time he plays poorly it was either a great effort by the other team, or there are factors we don't know about.

It's not a take, it's a fact. Perhaps you're just unaware about how good Josh Allen is and has been in the regular season.

Josh Allen (average QBR of 71.9): 76.6 QBR (2020), 66.3 QBR (2021), 73.4 QBR (2022), 70.3 QBR (2023), 72.7 QBR (2024)

Patrick Mahomes (average QBR of 71.0): 78.1 QBR (2020), 67.1 QBR (2021), 79.0 QBR (2022), 63.9 QBR (2023), 67.0 QBR (2024)

Again, why am I or anybody else supposed to give a shit about that given Mahomes' playoff pedigree? Why does anybody give a **** about Mahomes not playing at a MVP level in November?

Mahomes, 4 of the last 5 SBs, winning 3. Allen=nah

Have you considered that might sort of be my point?

I haven't read the argument, I just kinda jumped in with the only stats that should matter. :D

Hes played a seasons worth of post season games since he's been the starter I'd think that would have to take a mental and physical toll at some point but losing your top 2 WRs and shaky o-line at play is probably also a factor

This is the dumbest shit ever. Yes, he is the reason he's struggling. The guy is one of the highest paid players and is the greatest ever, but we're gonna make excuses that it's the lines fault that he is bailing from the pocket without any pressure? GTFO with that shit. Plenty of guys are out playing him and they have worse OLs than he does.

I know he will do better in the playoffs, but God damn this shit is boring as hell for the most part.

Yeah, unfortunately with the news of the Harbaugh hiring I was worried they had found their best coach since Marty, and so far they’re shaping up to be a massive pain in the ass in the Harbaugh era.

Yes.

When I went back and looked at the games there's plenty of times where Pat is bailing CLEAN pockets.

My guess is that because the pressure has been bad for so long that he's got a bit of happy feet going.

right now, it's Pat, and Trey Smith.

Pat is def struggling.

Mahomes throwing the ball on time would be nice

Yep, sure, the best QB ever suddenly doesn't know how to play the position of QB.

Now that is the dumbest shit ever.

To think that Mahomes built a HOF career in 6 years as a starter, and suddenly can't play the position, is asinine.

Do you honestly believe he would be playing like this with high quality tackles? Because if you think Mahomes is the problem, then you have to believe that.

JTFC people, WTF are you guys not understanding? Mahomes still has every single skill he had before, and hasn't suddenly forgotten how to figure out a defense.

So, if he still has the brains and physical skills, what is your explanation for his poor play? Do you think he sucks? Because he is playing worse than a lot of lower tier QBs.

Do you think he was never really good, and was just lucky the last 6 years?

Yes, he is playing poorly, but because of factors outside of himself. Again, yes, he can throw a bad pass, or a ridiculous pick, but are you really saying he is suddenly not good at football?

I have All 22.

This reads like a whole lot of autism.

We lost one borderline meaningless game. I’d rather have mahomes scrambling early to protect his health and throw more meaningless int to protect his health.

Thousands of words about 1 borderline meaningless loss