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O.city 01-08-2025 09:39 AM

Say the Cowboys do in fact want to move Parsons

Would you do our 1 this year, the 3rd from the Titans and a pick next year?

RunKC 01-08-2025 10:11 AM

I would rather go after Chase Young who on the surface had 5.5 sacks but had 59 total pressures this year. And I don’t think he’s gonna cost a lot. That’s if Omenihu walks.

He’d be a great FA addition

Sassy Squatch 01-08-2025 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17897836)
Say the Cowboys do in fact want to move Parsons

Would you do our 1 this year, the 3rd from the Titans and a pick next year?

It would cost significantly more than that.

O.city 01-08-2025 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17897866)
I would rather go after Chase Young who on the surface had 5.5 sacks but had 59 total pressures this year. And I don’t think he’s gonna cost a lot. That’s if Omenihu walks.

He’d be a great FA addition

I've wanted him multiple times here, they just never seem interested.

O.city 01-08-2025 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17897880)
It would cost significantly more than that.

A 1, 2 and a 3? I dunno.

DJ's left nut 01-08-2025 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17897009)
I do think you gotta pay Bolton OR Reid. They're the communicators of the defense. You lose both in the same offseason, you're playing with fire.

And let's be honest, Reid is the older guy, and there's a replacement already waiting in the wings.

Bolton is still only 24. There's just a lot going in favor of paying him.

Yeah, and the run defense being as good as it is has a lot to do with Bolton.

And as you noted, there's really nobody behind him.

The staff does seem to love Reid and what he does in terms of communication on the defense, but at a point you run out of money. If we want to address OT with a veteran presence, we can't keep Reid. And we do appear to have a replacement for him in Hicks.

The issue with Bolton is just price. He can make things really onerous for us because I think we're gonna pay him. Will he go the Creed route and get every dime he can? Or can we do some creative contract work to make that more palatable for the next couple of years?

But ultimately I think Bolton's coming back and I'm gonna have a hard time being to upset about it. I really like the player and the guy. I just hope he's not gonna break the bank. Realistically $15 million is the floor for him but if he wanted to break our balls, he could probably push that nearer $18 million or more. Or just take it to FA and make us pay out the nose.

I really hope it doesn't come to that.

Fastest way to be a whipping boy on a football team is to demand that massive contract. Because unless you end up in DPOY conversations, you're never going to satisfy most people. And I don't want Bolton to sour the fanbase on him - he's just a damn fun guy to root for.

smithandrew051 01-08-2025 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17897947)
Yeah, and the run defense being as good as it is has a lot to do with Bolton.

And as you noted, there's really nobody behind him.

The staff does seem to love Reid and what he does in terms of communication on the defense, but at a point you run out of money. If we want to address OT with a veteran presence, we can't keep Reid. And we do appear to have a replacement for him in Hicks.

The issue with Bolton is just price. He can make things really onerous for us because I think we're gonna pay him. Will he go the Creed route and get every dime he can? Or can we do some creative contract work to make that more palatable for the next couple of years?

But ultimately I think Bolton's coming back and I'm gonna have a hard time being to upset about it. I really like the player and the guy. I just hope he's not gonna break the bank. Realistically $15 million is the floor for him but if he wanted to break our balls, he could probably push that nearer $18 million or more. Or just take it to FA and make us pay out the nose.

I really hope it doesn't come to that.

Fastest way to be a whipping boy on a football team is to demand that massive contract. Because unless you end up in DPOY conversations, you're never going to satisfy most people. And I don't want Bolton to sour the fanbase on him - he's just a damn fun guy to root for.

If it wasn’t for Anthony Hitchens, I’d probably be out on paying Bolton.

The difference between the two is so damn obvious. Knowing what we have in Bolton is hard to pass on. Because we know we can spend a good amount of money on a far worse linebacker. Bolton is a bit too important to replace in the upcoming draft with our other needs.

Bolton, flaws and all, is probably worthwhile to bring back. My only concern, as someone else said too, is that it always seems like he’s dinged up a bit.

gordonelloyd 01-08-2025 11:55 AM

We went into this year, knowing that Veech had to solve our WR problem and he did a great job at that. Let’s hope he can do the same with our LT problem for 2025. We really do need a long-term solution there. I am hoping Humphrey will magically Provide it. But if not, we’re going to have to save cap room to sign the best free agent available or to get somebody in a trade like we did for Orlando Brown. I think it’s unrealistic to expect we can solve the LT problem in the draft, although we can hope Kingsley takes a giant step forward . But that is not something we can count on.

gordonelloyd 01-08-2025 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17897836)
Say the Cowboys do in fact want to move Parsons

Would you do our 1 this year, the 3rd from the Titans and a pick next year?

Even if we could get Parsons for that amount of draft capital, which I doubt, we could not afford the cap space he would take.

RunKC 01-08-2025 12:05 PM

A few other lower key FA’s I would love here:

Mike Gesicki TE-if Kelce retires I would go after this guy. Perfect fit. Have loved ever since he was a prospect
Ty Johnson RB
Elijah Moore WR-if Hollywood doesn’t return

RunKC 01-08-2025 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17897199)
Not a fan of paying Smith. He's gonna get a huge bag.

I saw that Hunter Nourzad gave up zero pressures/sacks in Denver. He played C but could play RG IMO.

Will be an interesting camp battle next year if Trey leaves

Couch-Potato 01-08-2025 01:02 PM

Defense has been stout all year without Omenihu, I love him on the roster but don’t see any need to pay him big money after missing a season due to injury and would prioritize Bolton or Smith instead.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-08-2025 04:39 PM

I wonder what Reid is going to be worth on the open market.

He's met if not exceeded expectations here, but the safety market is a mess. Constantly good players getting cut at the position. You'd think he could get more than his $14M AAV from the prior deal, but if the market/draft has any depth to it, he may not.

Chris Meck 01-08-2025 07:19 PM

All I know is that we've got 4 picks in the top 100, and we need to land 4 good football players. I don't even give a shit what positions they play. We need good, controlled cheap young talent, period.

In58men 01-08-2025 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17896811)
Re-visiting this thread.

QB: Mahomes will need to be extended, and have his contract reworked. Wentz we can re-sign, I don't really care. They need to have a reliable vet in the position. I don't think that's Wentz, but who knows. They have two 7ths this year, so they can drop one of them on a reserve QB.

RB: Pacheco is entering the last year of his deal, and I'll be interested to see if Steele develops. But this team needs to drop C+ money on a RB2. If there's good value at RB on the 2nd day of the draft, then pull the trigger there. Let Hunt walk.

WR: The Rice/Worthy combo is going to be lethal, and Brown should be affordable on a prove-it year. If Hopkins wants back cheap, I'm okay with that. Watson is cheap, bring him back. With Rice/Worthy/Brown/Watson, I'd be okay with a lower-level investment in FA. Maybe Hardman. No draft picks necessary, because the top three WR positions are all taken.

TE: The second biggest question mark of the entire offseason is Will Kelce Retire. I personally think he will. Noah Gray and Hendershot give you a decent one-two punch, but an investment in FA or the draft will be necessary.

OT: The biggest question of the offseason. The Chiefs need to package a 3rd and a pick year to go get the OT they want. They have to solve the LT equation, and a cheap five year LT is going to be invaluable. Taylor is your RT for at least another year, and Wanya can play swing tackle.

IOL: I think you can extend Thuney, let Trey walk, play Caliendo at guard. I don't know how much the team likes their depth at IOL with Suamataia, Nourzad, and Henson. A vet signing may be necessary.

DT: Wharton has probably played his way out of KC. Pennel can be re-signed or replaced by another plugger that Spags likes. The Chiefs will probably need to drop a draft pick at the "Wharton" position.

DE: I would like to think the Chiefs can bring back Omenihu at decent value, on a cheap one-year deal. That would give them Karlaftis/Omenihu/Danna/FAU. I'd like to think they'd extend Karlaftis this offseason? Can they? Maybe.

LB: I let Bolton walk. He's insanely talented, but he's going to be too expensive. You can slide Tranquill to the Mike, let Leo man the station at Sam, and sign a good Will in free agency -- my vote would be for Willie Gay.

CB: McDuffie will get an extension. From there, you've still got Watson/Williams/Roland-Wallace/Nazeeh. If good value falls in the draft, take it. But I'd prefer they just roll with what they've got.

S: Beg Justin Reid to take a deal. I'm guessing he won't (nor should he), so he's gone. That does give you Hicks/Cook/Conner. A vet signing here makes sense and wouldn't be expensive, I don't think. Same thing I said before with value in the draft. If a true free safety falls in the draft, you go get them.

ST: extend Araiza if he's cheap. If he's not, trust Toub to find a guy who is.

We also have Jared Wiley at TE.


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