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UChieffyBugger 01-14-2025 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by seamonster (Post 17910232)
Look at the last real game. pat freiermuth put up 60 yards. He averaged 14 against the Ravens. And when he wasn't playing a fraudulent bottom feeding franchise or a terrible defense like the Bengals he was getting handled by everybody else too. And that's because he's a mediocre TE. The Chiefs had a linebacker that could run 4.4 last year. They don't this year. And it's been a rocky adjustment. They're not getting ****ed up like they were earlier when Brock Bowers was gauging them for 170 yards or some shit but it's still not good. And I don't have the surplus in chromosomes so I won't LOL or type in all cap's like a clown or engage with those that do. So we're done here. But if I'm Veach I'm trading for or seeking out yet another LB in the offseason because they seem to be too slow at the position.
So now you've quoted a 60 yard game where the team scored ten points? Imo you're vastly overstating the issue. Tightends did well early in the season and yes Bowers did have some tough catches too. But the defense improved and it's not a "problem". Good players make plays. It's that simple.

staylor26 01-14-2025 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by seamonster (Post 17910232)
Look at the last real game. pat freiermuth put up 60 yards. He averaged 14 against the Ravens. And when he wasn't playing a fraudulent bottom feeding franchise or a terrible defense like the Bengals he was getting handled by everybody else too. And that's because he's a mediocre TE. The Chiefs had a linebacker that could run 4.4 last year. They don't this year. And it's been a rocky adjustment. They're not getting ****ed up like they were earlier when Brock Bowers was gauging them for 170 yards or some shit but it's still not good. And I don't have the surplus in chromosomes so I won't LOL or type in all cap's like a clown or engage with those that do. So we're done here. But if I'm Veach I'm trading for or seeking out yet another LB in the offseason because they seem to be too slow at the position.
OMG our top 3 defense has a weakness?

Hammock Parties 01-14-2025 11:03 AM
The Ravens are still the team we want due to their OL.

Get that OL in Arrowhead and they will fold and so will Lamar.

Buffalo's OL is playing at an extremely high level right now.

RaidersOftheCellar 01-14-2025 11:03 AM
Lot of people describing players not named Mahomes as "best player in the sport" these days. Not just Bills fans; national media analysts too. Some say it as if it's obvious.

Hopefully Mahomes has heard all of it.

RunKC 01-14-2025 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17910137)
Lol "we can't cover TE's" then mentions THE FIRST TWO GAMES of the season?? What about the other FIFTEEN? :D
Did you watch the other games? Pretty well known we’ve struggled against TE’s.

-Cade Otten-77 yards, TD
-Adam Trautman/Lucas Krull-55 yards, 18 YPC (and these guys suck)
-Jatavion Sanders had 48 yards before he hurt his neck at the end of the first half
-Dawson Knox-40 yards, 10 YPC average
-Dalton Schultz-45 yards, TD
-Pat Friermuth-7/60 yards

Also you might not want to look at what Bowers did to us at Arrowhead bc it wasn’t pretty

htismaqe 01-14-2025 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17910287)
Did you watch the other games? Pretty well known we’ve struggled against TE’s.

-Cade Otten-77 yards, TD
-Adam Trautman/Lucas Krull-55 yards, 18 YPC (and these guys suck)
-Jatavion Sanders had 48 yards before he hurt his neck at the end of the first half
-Dawson Knox-40 yards, 10 YPC average
-Dalton Schultz-45 yards, TD
-Pat Friermuth-7/60 yards

Also you might not want to look at what Bowers did to us at Arrowhead bc it wasn’t pretty
They lost one of those games. You're acting like it's some Achilles heel. It's not. They just don't focus on shutting down TEs and it shows.

tredadda 01-14-2025 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by seamonster (Post 17910232)
Look at the last real game. pat freiermuth put up 60 yards. He averaged 14 against the Ravens. And when he wasn't playing a fraudulent bottom feeding franchise or a terrible defense like the Bengals he was getting handled by everybody else too. And that's because he's a mediocre TE. The Chiefs had a linebacker that could run 4.4 last year. They don't this year. And it's been a rocky adjustment. They're not getting ****ed up like they were earlier when Brock Bowers was gauging them for 170 yards or some shit but it's still not good. And I don't have the surplus in chromosomes so I won't LOL or type in all cap's like a clown or engage with those that do. So we're done here. But if I'm Veach I'm trading for or seeking out yet another LB in the offseason because they seem to be too slow at the position.
Why not just bring back Gay? He never wanted to leave and only signed a cheap one year deal with NO.

BlackOp 01-14-2025 12:51 PM
This is a nightmare match-up for the Bills. Smaller front seven against Henry/Lamar...

Ravens piss-pounded them in the first match-up...while I dont think this game will be that lop-sided, Baltimore "should" beat them.

The way to beat the Ravens is essentially what KC did last year...get up on them early and keep Lamar trailing you. He's great when playing with a lead...relaxes and plays a lot more loose. His sphincter tightens up dramatically when he's playing catch-up.

BEAVER 01-14-2025 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 17908856)
What fanbase deserves an early exit? Well I kind of look at it like what fanbase deserves a win? I'd say the Bills....so many years of good teams and no Super Bowl wins. I feel for them. Of course, they're going to get downed on the road to the threepeat, but I'm just saying...
Honestly.....**** them.

Hammock Parties 01-14-2025 01:17 PM
They are setting themselves up for failure.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Ravens’ 13-play, 85-yard touchdown drive, made up entirely of running plays, is the first in NFL history to feature 13+ runs without a single pass.<br><br>Pure dominance on the ground. �� <a href="https://t.co/ZfUhQr8omD">pic.twitter.com/ZfUhQr8omD</a></p>&mdash; Ravens Nation �������� (@LIVERavenNation) <a href="https://twitter.com/LIVERavenNation/status/1878527292089024833?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 12, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hammock Parties 01-14-2025 01:18 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;I think Zay Flowers has a chance to be back for the game against the Bills..<br><br>There&#39;s no guarantees and we&#39;ll see how the week goes&quot; ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AdamSchefter</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PMSLive?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PMSLive</a> <a href="https://t.co/UzSDhR4vWm">pic.twitter.com/UzSDhR4vWm</a></p>&mdash; Pat McAfee (@PatMcAfeeShow) <a href="https://twitter.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1878862372770820244?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hammock Parties 01-14-2025 01:21 PM
"hard for zay to be 100 percent even if they make the super bowl"

"his knee is not ready to go even if this is mild"

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Zay Flowers <br><br>Does he have a chance to play in the Divisional Round? <a href="https://t.co/VzSGRWz9E2">pic.twitter.com/VzSGRWz9E2</a></p>&mdash; Jesse Morse, MD (@DrJesseMorse) <a href="https://twitter.com/DrJesseMorse/status/1879219684417106310?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 14, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Iowanian 01-14-2025 01:26 PM
If you give me the choice of an opponents TE gouging the chiefs for 70 yards vs a RB going for 125 or a WR 1 hanging 125. I’ll take that every game.

Spags picked what is more important to stop. A TE isn’t going to beat the chiefs.


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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17910287)
Did you watch the other games? Pretty well known we’ve struggled against TE’s.

-Cade Otten-77 yards, TD
-Adam Trautman/Lucas Krull-55 yards, 18 YPC (and these guys suck)
-Jatavion Sanders had 48 yards before he hurt his neck at the end of the first half
-Dawson Knox-40 yards, 10 YPC average
-Dalton Schultz-45 yards, TD
-Pat Friermuth-7/60 yards

Also you might not want to look at what Bowers did to us at Arrowhead bc it wasn’t pretty

BlackOp 01-14-2025 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17910480)
They are setting themselves up for failure.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Ravens’ 13-play, 85-yard touchdown drive, made up entirely of running plays, is the first in NFL history to feature 13+ runs without a single pass.<br><br>Pure dominance on the ground. �� <a href="https://t.co/ZfUhQr8omD">pic.twitter.com/ZfUhQr8omD</a></p>&mdash; Ravens Nation �������� (@LIVERavenNation) <a href="https://twitter.com/LIVERavenNation/status/1878527292089024833?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 12, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Will they try that trailing 14-0? Nope...

philfree 01-14-2025 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17910481)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;I think Zay Flowers has a chance to be back for the game against the Bills..<br><br>There&#39;s no guarantees and we&#39;ll see how the week goes&quot; ~ <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AdamSchefter</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PMSLive?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PMSLive</a> <a href="https://t.co/UzSDhR4vWm">pic.twitter.com/UzSDhR4vWm</a></p>&mdash; Pat McAfee (@PatMcAfeeShow) <a href="https://twitter.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1878862372770820244?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
If Flowers can't go I think Lamar will choke it away if Buffalo starts putting many points on the board. Andrews will be the only receiver he'll have any confidence in. That won't be enough.


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