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O.city 02-20-2025 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17974572)
I don't care about their dead money, look at that roster.

Where did most of the roster come from?

Mecca 02-20-2025 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17974574)
The Saints are why you don’t go crazy with void years. You cannot compare the Eagles to us. It’s not kicking the can down the road when you are constantly paying a lot of your cap to players who don’t even play for you anymore.

They have been shelling out 60+million of dead cap since 2021. The only reason this has worked this well is because of the Carson Wentz trade that got them assets for Jalen Carter, AJ Brown, Cooper DeJean and DeVonta Smith as well as a lot of luck this last year, as well as being bad enough to draft top 10 which we never do.

Unless you want to trade Mahomes for those assets and get a decent but not great QB, go for it.

It’s like people forget that the Eagles crashed out badly last year and it took a phenomenal offseason to fix it which likely won’t happen again.

But sure give Veach extra draft picks like Howie. We saw what he can do in that situation in 2022.

Nah the Saints are idiots they were right to do it until Brees retired, the fact that they didn't have a blow up year when he retired made no sense.

Look at the Eagles now or even the Rams you spend your money until you can't win that way then take your down year.

The Eagles also "crashed out" because Sirianni is a bozo they were still a playoff team.

O.city 02-20-2025 10:42 AM

The Chiefs aren't going to have a "crash out" year with Mahomes at QB.

Mecca 02-20-2025 10:42 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As for other teams with the fewest cap dollars currently in void years:<br>28. KC: $1.86M (DeAndre Hopkins via trade; Mahomes has empty void years)<br>27. TEN: $4.6M (Arden Key)<br>26. ATL: $5.6M<br>25. IND: $7.2M (DeForest Buckner)<br>24. LAC: $8.87M (Khalil Mack)<br>23. CIN: $9M (Joe Burrow)</p>&mdash; Nick Korte (@nickkorte) <a href="https://twitter.com/nickkorte/status/1889720874695082140?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">why does it matter? Cause they are fighting teams like the Eagles who use and abuse void years.<br><br>The Chiefs were in a $388m hole in void years in the Super Bowl. That&#39;s GIGANTIC!<a href="https://t.co/9kC0mceW0T">https://t.co/9kC0mceW0T</a></p>&mdash; Conner Christopherson (@Conner_DKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/Conner_DKC/status/1889736915009614096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Coochie liquor 02-20-2025 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17974587)
The Chiefs aren't going to have a "crash out" year with Mahomes at QB.

They don’t fix the OL, it’s possible they do at some point.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-20-2025 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17974588)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As for other teams with the fewest cap dollars currently in void years:<br>28. KC: $1.86M (DeAndre Hopkins via trade; Mahomes has empty void years)<br>27. TEN: $4.6M (Arden Key)<br>26. ATL: $5.6M<br>25. IND: $7.2M (DeForest Buckner)<br>24. LAC: $8.87M (Khalil Mack)<br>23. CIN: $9M (Joe Burrow)</p>&mdash; Nick Korte (@nickkorte) <a href="https://twitter.com/nickkorte/status/1889720874695082140?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">why does it matter? Cause they are fighting teams like the Eagles who use and abuse void years.<br><br>The Chiefs were in a $388m hole in void years in the Super Bowl. That&#39;s GIGANTIC!<a href="https://t.co/9kC0mceW0T">https://t.co/9kC0mceW0T</a></p>&mdash; Conner Christopherson (@Conner_DKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/Conner_DKC/status/1889736915009614096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lol, they're trying to win five more Super Bowls, not one. With Jalen Hurts, it makes sense to stress it in a way that gives him a super team.

You don't do that with the best QB talent of all time. We'd be putting out shit rosters in his mid to late thirties after just a couple bad draft classes.

Rainbarrel 02-20-2025 10:51 AM

This is a Super Bowl aberration
 
Foles completed 28 of 43 passes for 373 yards, 3 passing touchdowns, and 1 interception, and 1 receiving TD

Before this the Eagles were a laughing stock

Coochie liquor 02-20-2025 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 17974598)
Foles completed 28 of 43 passes for 373 yards, 3 passing touchdowns, and 1 interception, and 1 receiving TD

Before this the Eagles were a laughing stock

Are you by chance familiar with where KC was pre Reid, and even with Reid pre Mahomes in KC?

Rainbarrel 02-20-2025 10:56 AM

Changing the direction of the flow, is a no go

Rainbarrel 02-20-2025 11:01 AM

Holding up the Eagles way against what the Chiefs have accomplished. Is close to ludicrous

Mecca 02-20-2025 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 17974618)
Holding up the Eagles way against what the Chiefs have accomplished. Is close to ludicrous

I wouldn't look at it that way, I'd look at it this way, there is a recurring reason that every time the Chiefs go to the SB the narrative is the same. That narrative is the team the Chiefs are facing is top to bottom better than they are..

Coochie liquor 02-20-2025 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 17974618)
Holding up the Eagles way against what the Chiefs have accomplished. Is close to ludicrous

They’re the second most successful team after KC over the last 8 seasons.

KC 5 SB appearances 3 Lombardi’s

Philthy 3 SB appearances 2 Lombardi’s

But you knew that.

Rainbarrel 02-20-2025 11:05 AM

Fly Eagles fly

rfaulk34 02-20-2025 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 17972184)
The Bangles, for instance.

2025 guarantees: teams w/big QB contract (and i'm not counting to the penny) and playoff hopes.

Bills - approx. 106M
Ravens - approx. 81M
Cards - approx. 68M
Miami - approx. 143M
Chiefs - approx. 118M
Lions - approx. 113M
Eagles - approx. 163M
Rams - approx. 34M
Jags - approx. 143M
Pack - approx. 27M
49ers - approx. 70M
LAC - approx. 94M

Bengals - approx. 64M

The Bengals have plenty of cash to spend and space to spend it. You don't run an organization like a mom and pop shop for all these decades, take all the NFL's money and end up poor.

It's just an absolute ridiculous argument to even make.


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