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Deberg_1990 03-17-2025 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 18001699)
I honestly don't get it, your defense was atrocious last year, you had to outscore people and you couldn't do it. Should've let Tee Higgins walk and put that money into the defense, if Burrow is the God you claim he is then he can make another Tee Higgins or make due without him.

They decided to double down on the strength of their team. Offense sells tickets.

scho63 03-17-2025 08:18 PM

They are saying going to pay Hendrickson too. They are pushing all their chips in.

rfaulk34 03-17-2025 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 18001550)
Trade Hendrickson and draft well. Make that shitty defense into a top 20 to 15 and they’ve got a shot.

Keeping Hendrickson only makes it harder.

Trey is already on the books for 18M this year. He's looking for a long term extension. Apparently, they're close but i have no idea about the numbers.

Since Tee is off the tag, they could use it on Trey next year if they wanted to for around 22M (that's this years number for DE). I don't really see him anywhere other than in stripes next year. He's done nothing but speak glowingly about the Bengals and how they've treated him and his family.

rfaulk34 03-17-2025 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18001573)
It's going to take a top 15 or so pick to replace his production. This team has big holes everywhere. I don't see how creating yet another helps.

Huge hole at guard.
Big hole at pass rush, either LDE or DT.
Medium hole at safety.

Logan Wilson will be back this year. Jermaine Pratt is a good 2 down LB but not the 3 down LB he thought he was. They signed Oren Burks from the Eagles so they're ok at LB for this season.

There is still a chance they get one guard in FA and they're sure to draft another one early. Dax Hill and DJ Turner back in the secondary. That leaves them "ok" at CB.

I'd prefer they go safety and guard 1/2 in the draft but it wouldn't surprise me at all if they look ED to boost the pass rush. I can't see them going IDL since they drafted 2 last year and just signed Slaton from GB as a 0/1/2i tech to go with the young guys.

They could sign a guy like Scherff for 2 years and take either Booker in rd 1 or Ratledge in rd 2 and they're fine at guard for a bit, which would still allow them to get a safety in rd 2, though they'd probably have to trade up (which i don't really see).

In any event, they're not so far away that they can't fix last year...with who they get this year. There's no 2 or 3 year rebuilding plan.

Rausch 03-18-2025 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 18001784)
In any event, they're not so far away that they can't fix last year...with who they get this year. There's no 2 or 3 year rebuilding plan.

As long as all 3 are healthy the Bangles will be competitive. Perhaps playoff wins, perhaps not, but competitive at worst.

Any of those 3 goes down and there isn't enough there to win consistently. Perhaps they draft well enough to round things out on the cheap. That's not been the case since the 80's but perhaps there really is a change going on. Perhaps they play to attack things differently.

Would be the best case for Bangles fans. While I certainly hope you eat shit you definitely deserve better.

Boxer_Chief 03-18-2025 09:04 AM

I don’t get signing tee when you have Isiovas or however you spell it. He could replace the number 2 position production. Just strange to me.

Deberg_1990 03-18-2025 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 18001784)
Huge hole at guard.
Big hole at pass rush, either LDE or DT.
Medium hole at safety.

Logan Wilson will be back this year. Jermaine Pratt is a good 2 down LB but not the 3 down LB he thought he was. They signed Oren Burks from the Eagles so they're ok at LB for this season.

There is still a chance they get one guard in FA and they're sure to draft another one early. Dax Hill and DJ Turner back in the secondary. That leaves them "ok" at CB.

I'd prefer they go safety and guard 1/2 in the draft but it wouldn't surprise me at all if they look ED to boost the pass rush. I can't see them going IDL since they drafted 2 last year and just signed Slaton from GB as a 0/1/2i tech to go with the young guys.

They could sign a guy like Scherff for 2 years and take either Booker in rd 1 or Ratledge in rd 2 and they're fine at guard for a bit, which would still allow them to get a safety in rd 2, though they'd probably have to trade up (which i don't really see).

In any event, they're not so far away that they can't fix last year...with who they get this year. There's no 2 or 3 year rebuilding plan.

I would think if they have another year like last year they would sack Zac Taylor??

rfaulk34 03-18-2025 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 18001894)
I would think if they have another year like last year they would sack Zac Taylor??

At the end of this past year, i would have poo-poo'd any thought of that.

With the investment they're making this offseason, i'd say missing the PO again would make his seat red hot.

scho63 03-18-2025 10:52 AM

The Bengals seem to be following the Cowboy's strategy. Pay 4-5 guys ALL the money and use the scraps on everyone else.

How has that worked out?

RunKC 03-18-2025 11:02 AM

Lot of rumors that Burrow went to the owner and basically threatened him to do this or all 3 would ask for a trade at the same time.

I totally understand why Eli did what he did. He knew Spanos was a cheap prick who never cared about winning.

Gary Cooper 03-18-2025 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Boxer_Chief (Post 18001884)
I don’t get signing tee when you have Isiovas or however you spell it. He could replace the number 2 position production. Just strange to me.

Yeah, good point. They're basically paying Higgins #1 money to be a #2. They constantly have pass protection and defensive issues.

This move makes no sense. If Burrow and his Cody Rhodes wannabee haircut don't like it, the GM and owner should have have sat him down like a child and explained to him how the salary cap works.

rfaulk34 03-18-2025 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18001963)
Lot of rumors that Burrow went to the owner and basically threatened him to do this or all 3 would ask for a trade at the same time.

I totally understand why Eli did what he did. He knew Spanos was a cheap prick who never cared about winning.

I'm not one of those 'i have a source' guys but...

I can legitimately confirm that nothing like that ever happened.

OKchiefs 03-18-2025 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 18001257)
Yep, we talked about this months ago. The Chiefs, Bills, and Ravens seem to be moving one direction with WRs. The Bengals are basically doing the opposite. It will either prove to be genius or stupid. There's not much room for it to just be meh.

We saw one instance with KC moving that direction at WR, and I’m not so sure KC wouldn’t have paid Hill his asking price if they weren’t perhaps a little worried with his legal issues, and even then it seems like they were still in the ballpark.

I’ll personally be disappointed if we see KC continue the trend and end up letting someone like Rice walk if he puts up an elite’s on the next year or 2. We had the ultimate cheat code with Kelce and paying him a TE salary to perform like a WR1. We no longer have that luxury. With all of the struggles we have on offense lately and the inability to find a successor at WR for Hill until we found Rice, if Rice puts together a 1,400 yard 10 TD type of season in 2026 I don’t think it would be wise to let him walk under this faulty idea that Mahomes will just elevate subpar talent around him.

Maybe it’s Worthy and not Rice, I wouldn’t advise paying both but you can’t just have a constant revolving door at WR every year. We need some consistency there and at least one elite target.

Red Dawg 03-18-2025 01:38 PM

I get paying Chase but not 40 mil per year. That's insane. Wrs don't move the needle enough. They had them both and missed the playoffs. How is paying them both different? Should have traded Higgins and got more picks for defense.

Rainbarrel 03-18-2025 01:59 PM

With the unlikely to repeat itself amount of fortunate turnovers and not turnovers in Buffalo. Taylor and McDermott can switch teams next season


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