History is generally written by the victors. At least, it was that way from the Bronze Age through the Iron Age. We often only have one side of the story, if we have an account of the story at all.

I can do that in 10 seconds.

There are massive leaps in human evolution that have been made obvious by science. With that have been massive leaps in technology.

We've seen in more recent history the insane contributions that Leonardo Da Vinci and Nikola Tesla brought to the world.

No doubt there were absolutely brilliant people of ancient times who brought similar technological advances. Hell, we're still wrapping our heads around some of Tesla's work, including wireless electricity.

I don't doubt for a minute that people back then were capable of profoundly incredible feats and we simply do not have the written or archeological records to support it yet. We know they had the wheel, pulleys, and the like. Moving large objects doesn't seem all that difficult. Precision cutting is what we probably need an answer for.

The Giza pyramids do have the look of chemical reactors of some sort with the way the chambers that were already found were designed. Now it looks even more so. For what, who knows yet.

All that said, I do believe in Aliens but whether or not they'd bother helping us is another thing.

The information in the first post is untrue. While the two people cited in the post did makes a study the results were not in anyway what is being claimed. They two scientists think that the pyramids on the Giza plateau were built with self draining flood control, probably to preserve burial and burial goods from water damage.

........ yeah, the half-life of carbon-14 is defintely quack science.

ignoring the rest of your comment which is accurate--- gobekli tepe is insane levels of cool... but yeah... doubting C-14 dating is like doubting physics.

you know when you can start doubting radiocarbon dating? when living organisms aren't carbon based.

when the half-life of carbon-14 is observed to be something other than the normal (off top of head--- 524 years?).

otherwise, non starter.

fertile crescent is roughly 10,000 bce.

depends on your use. dating formerly living things? gold. for dating non-living things? bunk.

edit to mention yeah, there's an upper range because at a certain point you run out of all the half-lives worth of c-14

Some people are gullible.. Surprised they didn’t say Amelia Earharts plane was down there.. That technology isn’t capable of seeing detail that deep..

I'm a ways out of undergrad physics and organic chem here, but IIRC, there was a threshold where you are capped in terms of carbon dating?

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions on this but I find it strange to think that these were erected to be a tomb. The corridors are so incredibly precise and nothing about any of it suggests it should be a tomb.

You also look at the fact that their standard mastabas for burial don't exude any of the same types of efforts for anyone for any reason and it just all seems like too large an undertaking to bury someone, no matter the prominence.

As for the comment made about depth of GPR, it's largely correct based on my experience working for a GIS company that did above and sub-terranean locating. GPR doesn't go that deep and if it did, it would take quite the machine and power.

I recall seeing some 6.5 ft deep anomalies reported like a year ago near the pyramid but not 650 ft.

Mastabas were the first step in the evolution to the great pyramids. Mastaba -> step pyramids -> meidum pyramid -> bent pyramid -> great sloped pyramids.

Yep, it loses reliability at roughly 50,000 years. They use potassium-argon dating for much older things

The original hieroglyphics inside the pyramids themselves state their purpose as tombs.

Something that makes it very challenging for understanding the past is the rising sea levels How many Gobekli Tepes must be buried under the oceans? When the oceans really started rising 10,000 years ago we must have lost a ton of progress which didn’t really start to be regained until 4-5,000 years ago. So there’s a good at least 4,000 years where the process of civilization development was completely paused. Amazing to think what things could be like now if that gap in development didn’t happen.

The only thing that has them as tombs is graffiti that is believed to be from a worker when they were built, but there is some belief the graffiti was forged by early European explorers to try and garner news attention shortly after we were able to translate it.