Well actually it is really not about what "we" think...

It comes down to the GM and HC... "We" have zero say so in the matter... "We" just get to speculate and name calling....

Zombie, please list the posters who have been giving you positive rep. This will be of interest for a future project of mine.

You've listed the gang of 5. Now who are the more knowledgeable posters who have been encouraging you?

I haven't been here in the past, but it can get pretty nasty in here. I am surprised. I really thought when Herm left, the fans would come back together. I was wrong.

I understand that we all have a different opinion, but what makes me laugh is the name calling when someone else doesn't agree.

Most of these arguments are nothing more than hyperbole and grandstanding.

The funniest part is that one guy is a dummy when he talks bad about a prospect that we like, but suddenly legitimized when he praises that guy.

All in all, you are right. We have zero say. It is fun to debate. I just don't know why it tends to spiral downward into name calling and ridiculous overstatments.

Hopefully, once the draft happens, the fans will start to come together again, because if I wanted a place to bitch and argue, I would create a message board with my wife!

ChiefsPlanet does not operate on the premise that there is no such thing as a stupid question, or a stupid take for that matter.

I understand we heard these bullshit proclamations growing up, but they were false. There is actual stupidity in this world. Posters might be special to someone, but they're not necessarily special here.

We've all been on the receiving end to an extent, so people need not get their panties in a bunch. Wear thongs.

they havent abused the system or sworn at me so why should i do that to them?

I'll tell you one who's positive-repped him at least once - me. And he started out flaming me! It doesn't matter - repping someone is not an endorsement of his world-view, it's agreement with a statement. YOU repped me once - doesn't make you a Bronco fan.

* I think. I don't actually remember and I don't know how to see the reps you've sent people.

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I can guarantee you from experience that pioli zombie has received lots of rep for comments calling out posters for name-calling and profanity and general cock-headedness.

You don't have to.

But you've repeatedly made claims that others are rooting you on, and, at times, you've attempted to be the voice of the majority against the gang of 5 or 14 or whatever the number.

I don't believe you've seen much support, so thus the request.

ROFL

Maybe this is the case.

And I don't hold you responsible for all of your poor decisions, thus some rep. for a Donkey.

REP!

Perhaps I've underestimated the backlash to the Roberto Alomar tree?

My gut said it should have been a shrub because a tree was just too much, but alas...

not because of any treeROFL just the name calling gets a little out of hand sometimes

When 86% of the posters agree on something and the 14% call them stupid, i give the credibility to the 86%

who cares what you believe, some have already come out in this thread and said so. the poll in the other thread is a pretty good indicator too, when only 14 people disagree with my point of view.

So are people supposed to bow down to you now?

i could care less what they do. i was just calling out the 5 children. if people dont like me fine. But when 5 people go run up the neg reps and then claim im unpopular because they are insecure in their own need to be right its kind of like an episode of Saved By the Bell.

No offense, but you come off like a pompus ass... You been here a month and already have pissed off people with your, bow to me attitude...

Just saying...

again, who really cares what you think.

"Bow down to me attitude" another words, I didnt "bow down" to the blowhards.

Case and Point...

Thanks...

oh, I see. If i dont bow down to YOU, then thats makes me pompous?

brilliant. keep talking.

A real sophisticated charmer, this one. :rolleyes:

why should your dick be sucked? You aint king of anything. its a CHAT SITE!!!!

You get what you give. If you can't understand that, then mommy didn't raise you right.

no, not in this case. this isnt life. its an internet message board where 10 or 15 get a lifers fill their lives bullying and swearing at people. thats all.

You kids quit yer argufyin' and try and get along with one another.


Dinny

Oh okay then. Be sure to wake up when you're done playing in dreamland.

good comeback.

it would be enjoyable if they dont draft a QB just to hear you guys crying.ROFL

You kids quit yer argufyin' and try and get along with one another.

Dinny

sorry Dad. ok. :)

I dont understand why a QB would refuse to throw?

To me that would just raise a red flag. What is he afraid he's gonna hurt himself throwing?

When you choose not to do something in this case THROWING which is the main thing a QB when he has the ball, then your trying to hide something.

Just stop with this stupid shit.

Neither Manning threw.
Ryan didn't throw
The Mannings advised Stafford not to throw.

Top QBs don't throw because they have nothing to prove by tossing the ball around to scrubs when they are in shorts.

Please, for once, just study history before you go off half-cocked and say something moronic.

Just once.

I still don't understand why Stafford didn't throw.

Sanchez should have sit it out too. But there were some questions about his arm strength and obviously he was trying to raise his stock.

It doesn't matter though, exhibitions are the equivalent of Pro Bowl nonsense for rookies.
Games under pressure in the real world are all that matters.

interested teams will ask for a private workout.

Stafford had nothing to gain by throwing.

So why didn't stafford throw?
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Well when you're projected a possibly #1, you have nowhere to go but down.

It's a money thing. When millions are on the line, you can't blame somebody for making that decision.

98% of us would do the same thing if we were in his shoes.

Because hes the top QB in this draft and if you've paid attention to he draft any other year you would know the top QB's don't throw.

There must be a reason he didn't throw. Maybe he's yella
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Maybe he just knew you would be watching and checking out his package.

It is well known that Stafford is a believer in astrology. Jupiter is in retrograde during the combine. Only a fool would throw with Jupiter in retrograde. Unless your moon is in the house of Sagittarius, of course. In which case, it might be okay. Then again, if your moon is in the house of Sagittarius, your hang down is probably in Mrs. Sagittarius and you better be praying that Mr. Sagittarius doesn't come home early.

FAX

That doesn't explain why stafford didn't throw
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LMAO Rep.

I don't think Stafford is the answer either. I would take Crabtree before him. As stupid as that may sound, I think Crabtree's attitude on and off the field speak volumes for how he will perform at the NFL level.

Oh baitism. I hear ya man but you've opened yourself up to moron theatre now.
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LOL I like your take Mr.Fax

Your idiocy alone will suffice for our needs, thank you.

Zombie - for the love of god, come to terms with the idea that we're drafting a QB, unless the sky falls and they acquire Cassel. It's THE logical decision given this year's draft class, the current roster and the kind of compensation demanded of a top 5 selection.

ALL - don't Detroit's activities weigh pretty heavily on us in this? Think about it, if they acquire Cassel, they're likely to draft Curry or an OT...meaning they'd leave us "pick of the litter" which really fires up the Leak/Manning, er Stafford/Sanchez debate....if they don't get Cassel as some have presumed, they're likely to pull the trigger on anyone, QB-OT-OLB-hell it's Detroit-WR...

Who's the consensus #1 this year if there is one? And what do you see Detroit doing?

*all to be prefaced by STL taking an OT to relieve Pace. I'd suggest Raji or QB here, but they just have too much in Bulger, and their OL is strugglin.

You are on!! Thx for stepping up to the plate:thumb:

If the Chiefs take Curry or trade down- I win!
If the Chiefs take Sanchez at 3 or any other player at 3 besides Curry -you win!

Deal?

Gotta get back to work!

You keep referencing some magical poll. Other than your boyfriend's, which poll are you referring to?

This one: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=202766

The one where only 20% don't want a QB?

The one where only 13% said they would piss and moan about no QB instead of moving on.

ROFL R to the E to the P!

I don't think so. Look at it this way. If we draft a qb we have:

1. No running game
2. Mediocre offensive line
3. One decent receiver (who has alot of drops), and tony g (who might be gone)
4. A defensive line that just set a record for least number of sacks in a seaons
5. Brutal and old linebackers

You could draft the best qb to come of college in 10 years and he would be a bust with that kind of offense. There are no weapons, and you cannot expect a rookie qb to make perfect throws because their receivers can only get a half step of separation. Moreover, they will end up forcing it and throwing INTs. Also, neither of them are great runners...

A good defense can put offenses in a favorable position (TO's, 3 and outs, etc.). That will help a poor offense.

Bottomline, if we want to draft a qb, trade down. One, if not both, of those qb's will be there by pick 10.

how do I get in on this bet? Sanchez at #3....I've alaways said Curry at #3 or trade down....

If you draft a quarterback you can still fix all of those things. Perhaps not in one year, but what does that matter?

Apparently if you draft a QB in round 1, you're not allowed to pick in any other round.

Because the first couple years are critical to a young quarterbacks development. Also, we haven't fixed out offensive problems since LJ's rookie season. I wouldn't expect any leaps and bounds....

Or sign anyone in free agency.

So did anyone see the combine reports on Sanchez and Stafford? They're both 6-2.

from NFL draft blitz....I keep posting shit like this every day....when are all the Sanchez pimps going to wake up?

Scott Pioli and Todd Haley will not take many risks during the early part of their Chiefs’ era. Curry may be the safest pick in the entire draft, as his ceiling his “elite” and his floor is “really good”. The Chiefs need tough, physical playmakers in that front seven and Curry can provide the needed boost that defense. Curry, Derrick Johnson, Glenn Dorsey and Brandon Flowers are a nice, young nucleus on defense.

We didn't fix the offensive problems because we had a coaching staff made up of third grade reeruns. That's no reason not to fill the most important position on the team and get started developing that guy.

The ever so credible NFL draft blitz. Are you for real?

sorry Brock...I forgot to mention all the other posts from other NFL draft sites saying the same thing...I guess they're all wrong too....right?

There are very few interweb draft sites that know anything, and if you're even bothering with sites like the one you just posted from, you don't know what they are.

This guy intrigues me as a developmental prospect. 6-3, 225, good arm, good scrambler, ran a really fast 40-yard dash for a QB.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/...e-tab-analysis

We don't. It's called kicking instant gratification the **** out the door where it belongs, and taking a smarter, long-term approach.


Jesus!!!ROFL For a minute there, I thought Spit Bubble had made the draft this year!
That sneaky little 'tard...:D

For those of you that don't want either of these qbs, what does a college qb have to do for you to want to draft them? You guys seem too have insanely high standards. The problem is that the perfect qb prospect that you would want to draft won't be there next year (don't even say Sam Bradford). If such a prospect ever does appear he will have to be a consensus #1 to meet such high standards and do you really think a Pioli team is going to be picking anywhere near #1 after two years? Why not get our guy now while we're in a position too.

For those of you that say build the defense and o-line that is a blue print for the Minnesota Vikings. Pretty good defense, great o-line and running game, no qb, no playoff wins. No quarterback equals no playoff wins.

Picking the "safest" choice has done nothing this team in the last twenty years.

no, but it's done plenty for the Patriots, Steelers and Ravens

This post was so awesome, I would name my first born after it.
REP!

:doh!: But were not the Patriots, Steelers and Ravens.... So how does our failures translate to their success?

You have to BUILD the team first, BEFORE you can start pruning the tree as the years go by!

We don't HAVE a team! Who does not understand this? Raise your hand!

I dunno, Trent Dilfer has a superbowl ring, and Tennessee got pretty far with Kerry freaking Collins at QB.

Yeah, but the Patriots, Steelers, and (now) the Ravens all have something that the Chiefs do not. That something is a leader that can put the team on his back and lead them to victory with less than two minutes available.

When the score is 24-23 with only 0:59 to go, I can guarantee you that the team will not be looking to Aaron Curry for leadership. They will be looking at the QB in order to get them through the mess.

They all have QBs.

Those damn pesky 1st round QB's....

Trent Dilfer was lucky to be in that situation with a monster D.

Kerry Collins was last year's incarnation of 1995 Steve Bono. I expect Collins to fall flat on his face and come back to the earth in the upcoming season.