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bdeg 03-11-2009 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5572970)
Not as much as he hates you for that 1st round pick.

Crabtree might have been a better option there, but there was no tackle worth taking. I don't blame him for going defense.

The Franchise 03-11-2009 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5572891)
Thanks, and no problem. I enjoy the hell out of it.

At the rate we're going, we'll probably be able to "re-do" the 1st round, if people are interested. A lot can change in the next month+.

It would be interesting if we randomized the GMs for the 1st round and just redid that round only.

Direckshun 03-11-2009 11:48 AM

I don't think Crabtree or Maclin deserve a Top 10 pick.

DeezNutz 03-11-2009 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5572867)
This must have popped into my head about 20 times last night:

LMAO

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/wwZBMH3VOfI&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en&feature=player_embedded&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/wwZBMH3VOfI&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

ROFL

I've only watched this movie on a channel like TNT, so I'd never seen this part. That's funny shit.

The Franchise 03-11-2009 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 5573145)
I don't think Crabtree or Maclin deserve a Top 10 pick.

I could see the Jaguars taking Crabtree at 8 but other than them....I don't see anyone taking him in the top 10. Maclin I don't see as a top 10 pick. I think the Raiders look at grabbing an OT with their 1st round pick.

KCrockaholic 03-11-2009 03:46 PM

So Mecca wanted to add to the list of drafted centers by Indy. That makes 4 in 2 years so far haha.

KCrockaholic 03-11-2009 03:50 PM

Dont forget Ziggy Hood is still on the board. He will be a perfect fit for a 4-3 team who runs the cover 2

Direckshun 03-11-2009 03:57 PM

Some team needs a winning franchise QB, you can't tell me you'd pass on Chase Daniel now.

I would have snatched him up by now if I didn't have Eli Manning and Drew Brees.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-11-2009 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 5573765)
Some team needs a winning franchise QB, you can't tell me you'd pass on Chase Daniel now.

I would have snatched him up by now if I didn't have Eli Manning and Drew Brees.

Dude. You lose the draft.

Direckshun 03-11-2009 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5573771)
Dude. You lose the draft.

Chase Daniel has all the tools. He's a winner and he has all the tools.

KCrockaholic 03-11-2009 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 5573773)
Chase Daniel has all the tools. He's a winner and he has all the tools.

yep. "total package"

Direckshun 03-11-2009 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 5573790)
yep. "total package"

Absolutely. The total package of tools, that he has all of.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-11-2009 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 5573773)
Chase Daniel has all the tools. He's a winner and he has all the tools.

I heard Colt McCoy has been looking for his tools ever since Chase visited him last semester.

Direckshun 03-11-2009 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5573806)
I heard Colt McCoy has been looking for his tools ever since Chase visited him last semester.

I don't know what that means but you should draft Daniel.

eazyb81 03-11-2009 05:47 PM

Looking at how the 2nd round unfolded, I am very happy I made my decision to wait on addressing this position later rather than in the 1st round.

Ken Whisenhunt has made it no secret that he wants to transition to a 3-4 base defense like they ran in Pittsburgh during his tenure there. He has said they may try a hybrid scheme, but reading between the lines I think he's just saying that because he knows they currently don't have the personnel.

Looking over the roster, I feel the largest need by far to successfully make the move is OLB. Travis Laboy can probably be counted on, but the other side would be embarrassing if Chike Okeafor or Bertrand Berry are out there trying to run in space.

Before the combine, I felt this kid was an intriguing pick. But after he put on a show by running a 4.5 40 and 260+ pounds, I was sold. He has the pass rush moves you need for this role, and at the combine he showed he had the speed and athleticism. The Pittsburgh scheme has always utilized short and stocky OLBs that can rush rather than obsessing about size, but I think this kid has the best of both worlds.

With the addition of this player, Arizona will finally be able to make the full transition to running Pittsburgh's version of the 3-4 that Whisenhunt has been clamoring to do.

For the 63rd pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select........Lawrence Sidbury, OLB, Richmond

DeezNutz 03-11-2009 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5573806)
I heard Colt McCoy has been looking for his tools ever since Chase visited him last semester.

Craftsmen?

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-11-2009 07:07 PM

Dammit. I was hoping Sidbury would fall to the Chiefs.

The Franchise 03-11-2009 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5574021)
Looking at how the 2nd round unfolded, I am very happy I made my decision to wait on addressing this position later rather than in the 1st round.

Ken Whisenhunt has made it no secret that he wants to transition to a 3-4 base defense like they ran in Pittsburgh during his tenure there. He has said they may try a hybrid scheme, but reading between the lines I think he's just saying that because he knows they currently don't have the personnel.

Looking over the roster, I feel the largest need by far to successfully make the move is OLB. Travis Laboy can probably be counted on, but the other side would be embarrassing if Chike Okeafor or Bertrand Berry are out there trying to run in space.

Before the combine, I felt this kid was an intriguing pick. But after he put on a show by running a 4.5 40 and 260+ pounds, I was sold. He has the pass rush moves you need for this role, and at the combine he showed he had the speed and athleticism. The Pittsburgh scheme has always utilized short and stocky OLBs that can rush rather than obsessing about size, but I think this kid has the best of both worlds.

With the addition of this player, Arizona will finally be able to make the full transition to running Pittsburgh's version of the 3-4 that Whisenhunt has been clamoring to do.

For the 63rd pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select........Lawrence Sidbury, OLB, Richmond

:cuss:

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-11-2009 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5574501)
:cuss:

There was no way he was getting past me.

The Franchise 03-11-2009 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5574775)
There was no way he was getting past me.

I was gonna trade up. :D

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-11-2009 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5574789)
I was gonna trade up. :D

Nate Davis and Rhett Bomar are still on the board. I'm good.

Sfeihc 03-12-2009 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5574821)
Nate Davis and Rhett Bomar are still on the board. I'm good.

Tough choice there, Hamas.LMAO

Direckshun 03-12-2009 11:58 AM

slow ride
duh nuh nuh nuh-nuh, nuh-nuh
take it easy
duh nuh nuh nuh-nuh, nuh-nuh

BigChiefFan 03-12-2009 12:16 PM

Marco?.........Polo

Marco?.........Polo


Marco?........Polo

Mr. Flopnuts 03-12-2009 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5575738)
Marco?.........Polo

Marco?.........Polo


Marco?........Polo

Repost.

BigChiefFan 03-12-2009 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5575749)
Repost.

This is also a repost.;) I'll see your repost and raise you another.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-12-2009 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5575825)
This is also a repost.;) I'll see your repost and raise you another.

Repost

BigChiefFan 03-12-2009 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5575896)
Repost

tsoper
poster
potser
repots
poser-t

bdeg 03-12-2009 01:31 PM

neg reps to any more "repost" comments I'm tired of checking this without a pick or discussion.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-12-2009 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdeg (Post 5576053)
neg reps to any more "repost" comments I'm tired of checking this without a pick or discussion.

Repost.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-12-2009 01:49 PM

Seriously though, Marco only has about 4 hours right?

BigChiefFan 03-12-2009 01:57 PM

Lighten up Francis, we're waiting, TOO.

bdeg 03-12-2009 02:13 PM

It's annoying to check a thread because it says it's 'new' when there has been no discussion. 4 'repost''s in a row was more than enough. Let's talk about the picks or wait for the next one

BigChiefFan 03-12-2009 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdeg (Post 5576227)
It's annoying to check a thread because it says it's 'new' when there has been no discussion. 4 'repost''s in a row was more than enough. Let's talk about the picks or wait for the next one

Now you posted and made me look in the thread without any football discussion.

bdeg 03-12-2009 02:31 PM

In the interest of deterring future dipshittery.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-12-2009 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdeg (Post 5576326)
In the interest of deterring future dipshittery.

Eat a dick.

bdeg 03-12-2009 02:39 PM

I was mostly joking around. Don't take it personal.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-12-2009 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdeg (Post 5576349)
I was mostly joking around. Don't take it personal.

I rarely do. I am having a ****ing terrible day at work and taking it out on random people on CP. My apologies.

OnTheWarpath15 03-12-2009 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5576117)
Seriously though, Marco only has about 4 hours right?

He's gonna get extra time again if he needs it - I have class tonight, and I follow his pick.

The Franchise 03-12-2009 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5576353)
I rarely do. I am having a ****ing terrible day at work and taking it out on random people on CP. My apologies.

Get over it pussy. :D

Mr. Flopnuts 03-12-2009 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5576547)
Get over it pussy. :D

I hate you all.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-12-2009 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5576679)
I hate you all.

I MEAN IT GAWDDAMMIT!!!!!

Sfeihc 03-12-2009 09:09 PM

I could come up with a dozen Marco Polo jokes but really I'd like it if he just made the pick.STFU

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-12-2009 09:11 PM

This is ****ing bullshit. It's been a god****ing week since I've had a selection. I'm tired of waiting on these sorry ****s.

Marco Polo 03-12-2009 10:25 PM

Pittsburgh Steelers select Chris Baker, NT, Hampton

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-12-2009 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 5578066)
Pittsburgh Steelers select Chris Baker, NT, Hampton

I'm honestly stunned. I thought I could get him in Round 4.

OnTheWarpath15 03-13-2009 09:00 AM

The Lions need a lot of things, but they need a DT (or two) like I need air to breathe.

The Lions select:

Evander Hood, DT, Missouri

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-13-2009 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5579072)
The Lions need a lot of things, but they need a DT (or two) like I need air to breathe.

The Lions select:

Evander Hood, DT, Missouri

Good pick and great value for a guy who is the #1 3 Tech in the entire draft on probably everyone's board right now.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-13-2009 09:22 AM

And the DT's are flying off the board. The Rams need one. And aren't in a position to chance waiting at this point. Frnakly there are a couple of guys I figured would be there in the 4th that are already gone.

The Rams select Sen'Derrick Marks DT Auburn

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-13-2009 09:25 AM

Well, there are a couple of directions I could go here, but the Chiefs desperately need a pass rusher, and seem hell-bent on going to a 3-4. This guy has improved his production every year, and started for four years. He has a ton of TFL, and racked up an impressive number of sacks. He's too small to be a 4-3 DE, but he has the quickness, speed, and pass rushing repertoire to be an impact rush backer in a 3-4 scheme.

The Kansas City Chiefs select Cody Brown, OLB, Connecticut.

eazyb81 03-13-2009 09:36 AM

Glad to see this kid still on the board since he was the player I was targeting all along for this pick.

Seattle probably has the worst pair of starting safeties in the league, and I think this player has a great chance of earning a starting spot this season. He'll never be the biggest, fastest, or strongest player on the field, but he has amazing instincts and understands his role as the last line of defense. He has great ball skills and will rack up INTs as an amazing centerfielder.

The Seattle Seahawks select Rashad Johnson, FS, Alabama

ChiefsCountry 03-13-2009 11:12 AM

With no WR's worth this spot, the Cowboys decide to help keep Romo upright. Look how much they struggled when he was hurt last year. Dallas always has had big lineman and they decide to take a huge one.

The Dallas Cowboys select Herman Johnson, G LSU

ChiefsCountry 03-13-2009 11:16 AM

Bengals might have had the worst center in the NFL last year with Eric Grudizac. With Meredith protecting Palmer's blindside and Collins holding down the right. The Bengals have their bookends for the line for the next decade. Now they decide to add the piece in the middle.

The Cincinnati Bengals select Antoine Caldwell, C, Alabama

DeezNutz 03-13-2009 11:18 AM

With all these picks happening, it's time to return to the real business of this thread:

Repost.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-13-2009 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5579444)
With all these picks happening, it's time to return to the real business of this thread:

Repost.

YOU SON OF A BITCH!!!! :cuss:

DeezNutz 03-13-2009 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5579584)
YOU SON OF A BITCH!!!! :cuss:

This isn't a ****ing update! :cuss:

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 03-14-2009 02:09 AM

hmmm...paying two QBs assloads of money....and then trading Sanchez for watered-down draft value if Cassel suceeds---therefore taking a shit on the third overall pick. Oh and if Cassel fails, then Sanchez is still a big question mark...brilliant

OnTheWarpath15 03-14-2009 09:09 AM

Spicy has until 12:16 this afternoon to make his pick, otherwise, Archie goes on the clock at 12:17 and we move forward.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-14-2009 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie (Post 5581668)
hmmm...paying two QBs assloads of money....and then trading Sanchez for watered-down draft value if Cassel suceeds---therefore taking a shit on the third overall pick. Oh and if Cassel fails, then Sanchez is still a big question mark...brilliant

Yeah, having two QBs with trade value really ****ed the <del>Patriots, Cowboys, and 49ers</del>.

You are about as worthless as sack dew.

Archie Bunker 03-14-2009 12:18 PM

When Jordan Black is on your 2-Deep it's obvious you need tackle help. With that being said......

The Jacksonville Jaguars select Troy Kropog, OT, Tulane

milkman 03-14-2009 01:05 PM

OK, so I guess I'm up.

As I said with the Pack's first round pick, they have Ryan Grant and a bunch of "eh" at RB.

Ideally I'd like to take a kid with speed and great hands as a a change of pace back to take some snaps to keep Grant fresh.

But there really aren't any kids like that here, so I considered CB here also.

But in the end, I think Grant is just an "eh" RB also anyway, and James Davis (5'11", 218) is a kid who has decent, albeit not elite speed, who runs with power and has good vision, so he could conceivably eventually take the starter's spot from Grant.

The Pack select James Davis, RB, Clemson.

With Davis on board, the Pack have a good 1-2 punch at RB.

OnTheWarpath15 03-14-2009 01:23 PM

Spicy can make his pick at any time, and the guys "on the clock" can continue as usual.

ChiefsCountry 03-14-2009 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5582049)
OK, so I guess I'm up.

As I said with the Pack's first round pick, they have Ryan Grant and a bunch of "eh" at RB.

Ideally I'd like to take a kid with speed and great hands as a a change of pace back to take some snaps to keep Grant fresh.

But there really aren't any kids like that here, so I considered CB here also.

But in the end, I think Grant is just an "eh" RB also anyway, and James Davis (5'11", 218) is a kid who has decent, albeit not elite speed, who runs with power and has good vision, so he could conceivably eventually take the starter's spot from Grant.

The Pack select James Davis, RB, Clemson.

With Davis on board, the Pack have a good 1-2 punch at RB.

I like Davis alot. I think he is going to be a special back in the NFL. Nice pick.

Spicy McHaggis 03-14-2009 01:31 PM

Sorry about the late pick, I was traveling all yesterday and you all tore through about 5 picks in a row, heh.

Oakland Raiders select Paul Kruger, DE, Utah

milkman 03-14-2009 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5582096)
I like Davis alot. I think he is going to be a special back in the NFL. Nice pick.

You talked about him early in the season, so I made it a point to check him out and found that I agreed with you.

OnTheWarpath15 03-14-2009 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis (Post 5582105)
Sorry about the late pick, I was traveling all yesterday and you all tore through about 5 picks in a row, heh.

Oakland Raiders select Paul Kruger, DE, Utah

No problem - things happen.

Hell, we got to the 3rd round before someone missed a pick and it was only by a few hours.

IIRC, we had someone go AWOL in the first 10 picks of the 1st round last year.

ChiefsCountry 03-14-2009 01:52 PM

Weekends dont bother me too much if somebody is late.

OnTheWarpath15 03-14-2009 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5582147)
Weekends dont bother me too much if somebody is late.

Me either - especially considering we're flying through this.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 03-14-2009 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5581963)
Yeah, having two QBs with trade value really ****ed the <del>Patriots, Cowboys, and 49ers</del>.

You are about as worthless as sack dew.

Well If Cassel is any good, an unproven Sanchez will have about as much trade value as Brady Quinn. That's a really good exchange. didn't everybody rooting for the chiefs to lose have the argument that the value of a top 5 pick was too great to miss out on? Only the true fans would root for the chiefs to win and risk missing out on such talent. If Cassel sucks, then he will have no trade value and Sanchez will be thrown in. No way Sanchez comes in and starts over Cassel. Brady (not third overall) fell into the pats laps and therefore so did the bledsoe trade. 49ers had an old, legendary QB and gave up a 2nd and 4th...not the third overall....Montana was not 26. Essentially you want to use the 1st and 2nd pick on a QB....****ing reeruned...
So your biggest hope while picking 3rd overall is to have both QBs...then Cassel plays well for two years...gets hurt...Sanchez plays well....and trade Sanchez for late first/early second? That's asking a lot.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 03-14-2009 02:34 PM

this whole having two QBs with trade value just irks me. In the history of the NFL, there is no example of a team paying two young unprovens tons of money to compete for QBOTF. Should the Ravens draft Sanchez?....the Falcons?...Flacco and Ryan have good trade value at this point but aren't quite established QBs.

ChiefsCountry 03-14-2009 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie (Post 5582224)
In the history of the NFL, there is no example of a team paying two young unprovens tons of money to compete for QBOTF.

See 1989 Dallas Cowboys.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 03-14-2009 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5582226)
See 1989 Dallas Cowboys.

you're right..still don't like the idea. Im not much of a supplemental draft expert...what did they give up for Walsh?

ChiefsCountry 03-14-2009 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie (Post 5582244)
you're right..still don't like the idea. Im not much of a supplemental draft expert...what did they give up for Walsh?

#1 pick in the 1990 draft

doomy3 03-14-2009 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5582254)
#1 pick in the 1990 draft

And what did they end up getting in return for Walsh?

DaKCMan AP 03-14-2009 03:01 PM

The 49ers got their rush backer in round 1, upgraded their WR corps in round 2 and they continue to build a strong D in round 3. Walt Harris is old. This guy can come in, play nickel and then eventually take over the starting CB spot. Like former teammate Brandon Flowers, Harris ran a poor 40 at the combine but this guy has outstanding ball skills and is a gamer.

The 49ers select Victor "Macho" Harris, CB, Virginia Tech.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-14-2009 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie (Post 5582208)
Well If Cassel is any good, an unproven Sanchez will have about as much trade value as Brady Quinn. That's a really good exchange. didn't everybody rooting for the chiefs to lose have the argument that the value of a top 5 pick was too great to miss out on? Only the true fans would root for the chiefs to win and risk missing out on such talent. If Cassel sucks, then he will have no trade value and Sanchez will be thrown in. No way Sanchez comes in and starts over Cassel. Brady (not third overall) fell into the pats laps and therefore so did the bledsoe trade. 49ers had an old, legendary QB and gave up a 2nd and 4th...not the third overall....Montana was not 26. Essentially you want to use the 1st and 2nd pick on a QB....****ing reeruned...
So your biggest hope while picking 3rd overall is to have both QBs...then Cassel plays well for two years...gets hurt...Sanchez plays well....and trade Sanchez for late first/early second? That's asking a lot.

Or, if Cassel plays OK to good, and it looks like Stafford/Sanchez are PB material, since we own Cassel's rights for two years, as a RFA (due to CBA expiration), we can put a 1st and third round claim on him and get more in return for him if we don't match anyone else who signs him to an offer sheet.

So, if you give me the option of flipping Matt Cassel to some other team who will only have to pay him 2.5 million next year for a 1st and third when we paid a second for him, and I get a year to season Stafford/Sanchez, I do that 1 billion times out of 10.

But, since the Hooties of the world only think in terms of today, they'll bash the pick.

milkman 03-14-2009 03:11 PM

Didn't we have this same argument several pages ago?

JFC, it's done, let it go.

Sfeihc 03-14-2009 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 5582271)
The 49ers got their rush backer in round 1, upgraded their WR corps in round 2 and they continue to build a strong D in round 3. Walt Harris is old. This guy can come in, play nickel and then eventually take over the starting CB spot. Like former teammate Brandon Flowers, Harris ran a poor 40 at the combine but this guy has outstanding ball skills and is a gamer.

The 49ers select Victor "Macho" Harris, CB, Virginia Tech.

****er! I was hoping The Macho Man would drop to the Vikes.

Bunker, nice pick on the OT from Tulane.

ChiefsCountry 03-14-2009 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5582258)
And what did they end up getting in return for Walsh?

A 1st and couple thirds I believe.

orange 03-14-2009 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie (Post 5582244)
you're right..still don't like the idea. Im not much of a supplemental draft expert...what did they give up for Walsh?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5582254)
#1 pick in the 1990 draft

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5582258)
And what did they end up getting in return for Walsh?

Walsh, a backup to Troy Aikman since both joined the Cowboys last year, went to New Orleans in exchange for the Saints' No. 1 and No. 3 choices in 1991 and a No. 2 selection in 1992.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...5AC0A966958260


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