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milkman 01-09-2010 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willy (Post 6428729)
Wins, no INT's, and some pretty nice passes just don't mean shit around these parts I guess.

He threw 15 passes, and some were pretty nice passes, and his team won, but the fact is, he simply managed the game.

That game was lost more by Carson Palmer than won by Sanchez.

Sweet Dick Willy 01-09-2010 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6428735)
He threw 15 passes, and some were pretty nice passes, and his team won, but the fact is, he simply managed the game.

That game was lost more by Carson Palmer than won by Sanchez.

Two words:

Braylon

Edwards.

DeezNutz 01-09-2010 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6428735)
He threw 15 passes, and some were pretty nice passes, and his team won, but the fact is, he simply managed the game.

That game was lost more by Carson Palmer than won by Sanchez.

Sanchez was playing well enough today, throwing decisively and accurately, that I believe he could have easily done more, if asked. And Edwards could have improved Sanchez's line.

That said, it would be stupid for the Jets NOT to play to their strengths: running game, D.

WilliamTheIrish 01-09-2010 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6428743)
Sanchez was playing well enough today, throwing decisively and accurately, that I believe he could have easily done more, if asked. And Edwards could have improved Sanchez's line.

That said, it would be stupid for the Jets NOT to play to their strengths: running game, D.

He did what he needed to do. I don't think anybody thinks the Jets are going to ride Sanchez to the SB, but he did enough today to advance.

That's all you can ask of him. Plus the SOB got his first taste of playoff football in his rookie season. That's a nice little piece of experience to have.

DeezNutz 01-09-2010 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 6428746)
He did what he needed to do. I don't think anybody thinks the Jets are going to ride Sanchez to the SB, but he did enough today to advance.

That's all you can ask of him. Plus the SOB got his first taste of playoff football in his rookie season. That's a nice little piece of experience to have.

Yep. Agree with all of this.

milkman 01-09-2010 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6428743)
Sanchez was playing well enough today, throwing decisively and accurately, that I believe he could have easily done more, if asked. And Edwards could have improved Sanchez's line.

That said, it would be stupid for the Jets NOT to play to their strengths: running game, D.

I don't disagree.

I just think that RoR is making more of it than it was, Braylon Edwards drop notwithstanding.

And I am a big Sanchez supporter.

keg in kc 01-09-2010 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6428425)
Drops.

That's true enough.

KCBOSS1 01-09-2010 09:07 PM

They will be a force over the next several years.

Sweet Dick Willy 01-09-2010 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6428757)
I don't disagree.

I just think that RoR is making more of it than it was, Braylon Edwards drop notwithstanding.

And I am a big Sanchez supporter.

You DO realize there is a contingent here that has done nothing but call him worthless all year, yes?

This is a beautiful day for Sanchez fans of all races, colors, and creeds, and I will damned well celebrate it as such!:)

milkman 01-09-2010 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willy (Post 6428773)
You DO realize there is a contingent here that has done nothing but call him worthless all year, yes?

This is a beautiful day for Sanchez fans of all races, colors, and creeds, and I will damned well celebrate it as such!:)

I'm fully aware of that, but that isn't going to influence my opinion.

Pioli Zombie 01-09-2010 09:12 PM

I would laugh so hard if the Colts lose to the Jets and the way each team is playing it could happen.
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keg in kc 01-09-2010 09:21 PM

I'm still trying to figure out how saying the guy managed the game is somehow discrediting him. It's what he did, nothing more, nothing less. They ran the ball 38 times. They did not try to sling it around and they did not try to win it with his arm. They stuck to their strengths, which at this point in time are running game and defense. And it's pretty clear it was a good decision.

I think people have this thing in their head that the words "manged the game" is somehow an insult. When reality is that one of the things franchise quarterbacks have to be able to do is manage games. Today was a good sign for his future, if nothing else. He didn't shoot himself in the foot on the biggest stage of his career, on the road, and he completed a high percentage of passes. It was by far his best performance as a pro.

But, at the same time, I'm sorry, it was 15 passes. Again, they did run the ball 38 times. And I don't think it's some kind of crime to acknowledge that. I think it's okay to just give him an attaboy for managing the game, instead of treating it like he went out there, took the team on his shoulders and won the game on his own by taking the Bengals defense apart. Because, you know, he didn't. That's not what happened. Doesn't mean that he can't or he won't, just that he didn't.

Maybe that's next week...

Sweet Dick Willy 01-09-2010 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6428778)
I'm fully aware of that, but that isn't going to influence my opinion.

No party hat or beer for you.

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 6428781)
I would laugh so hard if the Colts lose to the Jets and the way each team is playing it could happen.
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I would laugh so hard if the refs didn't throw 20 flags at Revis.

OnTheWarpath15 01-09-2010 10:38 PM

Do I even need to read this thread, or does this cover it:

Sanchez sucks. The defense carried him again. He did nothing to win that game. He only threw 15 passes. Anyone could have done that.

That about it?

Bill Lundberg 01-09-2010 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6429138)
Do I even need to read this thread, or does this cover it:

Sanchez sucks. The defense carried him again. He did nothing to win that game. He only threw 15 passes. Anyone could have done that.

That about it?

Pretty much

DeezNutz 01-09-2010 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6429138)
Do I even need to read this thread, or does this cover it:

Sanchez sucks. The defense carried him again. He did nothing to win that game. He only threw 15 passes. Anyone could have done that.

That about it?

Yeah, kinda.

But there was a good deal of quiet, accentuated by random comments from unusual sources (such as Hamas, cdcox, and myself). Shocking stuff, I know.

OnTheWarpath15 01-09-2010 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg (Post 6429142)
Pretty much

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6429152)
Yeah, kinda.

But there was a good deal of quiet, accentuated by random comments from unusual sources (such as Hamas, cdcox, and myself). Shocking stuff, I know.

Did our full-of-shit friend TheGuardian show up to make an ass of himself?

DeezNutz 01-09-2010 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6429169)
Did our full-of-shit friend TheGuardian show up to make an ass of himself?

Negative.

Everyone knows that Sanchez is still a bust.

OnTheWarpath15 01-09-2010 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6429179)
Negative.

Everyone knows that Sanchez is still a bust.

LMAO

What a ****ing douchebag.

ArrowheadMagic 01-09-2010 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6429138)
Do I even need to read this thread, or does this cover it:

Sanchez sucks. The defense carried him again. He did nothing to win that game. He only threw 15 passes. Anyone could have done that.

That about it?


While Sanchez was solid and didnt shit himself like Palmer, he in no way carried the Jets. Jets are built on a good running game and strong defense. They played to their strengths.

OnTheWarpath15 01-09-2010 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic (Post 6429230)
While Sanchez was solid and didnt shit himself like Palmer, he in no way carried the Jets. Jets are built on a good running game and strong defense. They played to their strengths.

He did his job.

The guy is a ****ing rookie, went on the road in his first ever playoff game, completed 80% of his passes, averaged over 12 yards per attempt and was robbed of a 50+ yard TD because Braylon Edwards half-assed it.

The guy made clutch throws, converted long third downs, and didn't make a single mistake.

You can't ask for much more than that, and if he continues to do that, the Jets will keep winning.

Mecca 01-09-2010 11:02 PM

Better watch out, Mark Sanchez is closing in on the Chiefs franchise number of playoff wins.

ArrowheadMagic 01-09-2010 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6429251)
He did his job.

The guy is a ****ing rookie, went on the road in his first ever playoff game, completed 80% of his passes, averaged over 12 yards per attempt and was robbed of a 50+ yard TD because Braylon Edwards half-assed it.

The guy made clutch throws, converted long third downs, and didn't make a single mistake.

You can't ask for much more than that, and if he continues to do that, the Jets will keep winning.


Ok, he still didnt carry them. They ran the ball well, Palmer shit himself. I am aware he was drafted last year making this his rookie season. No where in my post did I say he sucked. He did what was asked for him and was solid. Was he great? No. He managed the game very well, made plays when he needed to.

Sweet Dick Willy 01-09-2010 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6429255)
Better watch out, Mark Sanchez is closing in on the Chiefs franchise number of playoff wins.

ROFL Ouch.

DeezNutz 01-09-2010 11:10 PM

But, but, but, but, but, but, but...

ArrowheadMagic 01-09-2010 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6429283)
But, but, but, but, but, but, but...


But what?

milkman 01-09-2010 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic (Post 6429279)
He managed the game very well, made plays when he needed to.

As keg says, why is that dismissed by so many as some kind of insult?

he did exactly that, and that's a good job by a rookie.

OnTheWarpath15 01-09-2010 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic (Post 6429279)
Ok, he still didnt carry them. They ran the ball well, Palmer shit himself. I am aware he was drafted last year making this his rookie season. No where in my post did I say he sucked. He did what was asked for him and was solid. Was he great? No. He managed the game very well, made plays when he needed to.

What the **** does he have to do to be great?

Jesus, people.

He had a near-perfect statistical game, on the road, in the playoffs. And his team won the game.

What should he have done? Throw for 300?

ArrowheadMagic 01-09-2010 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic (Post 6429286)
But what?


But this game should be another nail in the coffin of Palmer being a franchise QB.

OnTheWarpath15 01-09-2010 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6429288)
As keg says, why is that dismissed by so many as some kind of insult?

he did exactly that, and that's a good job by a rookie.

Because they were fully expecting the kid to go out and throw 4 INT's and lose the game for the Jets.

He did the polar opposite, a near-perfect game, and they'll do whatever they can to discredit the kid.

I'd love to know what else the kid could have done.

ArrowheadMagic 01-09-2010 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6429290)
What the **** does he have to do to be great?

Jesus, people.

He had a near-perfect statistical game, on the road, in the playoffs. And his team won the game.

What should he have done? Throw for 300?


Jesus ****ing christ. No... I dont think you win playoffs games by making a rookie QB throw 45 times. He ****ing managed the game.... he did his ****ing job. Stop being so ****ing sensitive to those that arent as eager to suck his cock as some are. Read my ****ing posts, stop looking for me to slob on his sack.


Only questions I had about Sanchez pre draft was experience, I dont think he's a bust, in fact, I think he played well in large spurts as a rookie. But Ryan isnt going to ask him to win games in the playoffs. Their strengths are : the running game and defense. Thats what will carry them this year.

milkman 01-09-2010 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6429294)
Because they were fully expecting the kid to go out and throw 4 INT's and lose the game for the Jets.

He did the polar opposite, a near-perfect game, and they'll do whatever they can to discredit the kid.

I'd love to know what else the kid could have done.

At the same time, some people want so badly to be right that they are making more of it than it was.

There's no objectivity on either side.

ArrowheadMagic 01-09-2010 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6429288)
As keg says, why is that dismissed by so many as some kind of insult?

he did exactly that, and that's a good job by a rookie.


I agree, he played well, did what was asked of him. The Jets played to their strengths and Sanchez delivered when he needed to. I dont think he carried them, but was part of why they won today.

OnTheWarpath15 01-09-2010 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6429310)
At the same time, some people want so badly to be right that they are making more of it than it was.

There's no objectivity on either side.

I haven't read the thread, so I can't comment on that.

I just keep seeing these backhanded compliments.

milkman 01-09-2010 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6429320)
I haven't read the thread, so I can't comment on that.

I just keep seeing these backhanded compliments.

It's basically RoR, who you know would make more of it than it was.

cdcox 01-09-2010 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6429290)
What the **** does he have to do to be great?

Jesus, people.

He had a near-perfect statistical game, on the road, in the playoffs. And his team won the game.

What should he have done? Throw for 300?

300? Been done.

OnTheWarpath15 01-09-2010 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6429322)
It's basically RoR, who you know would make more of it than it was.

Gotcha.

Sweet Dick Willy 01-10-2010 12:17 AM

"If Cassel were a Jet, they'd be a lock to win the Super Bowl"-Cassholes.

Titty Meat 01-10-2010 12:37 AM

Sanchez did something the Chiefs franchise hasn't done in 15 years.

ClevelandBronco 01-10-2010 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6429251)
...The guy is a ****ing rookie, went on the road in his first ever playoff game, completed 80% of his passes, averaged over 12 yards per attempt and was robbed of a 50+ yard TD because Braylon Edwards half-assed it...

Braylon Edwards playing half-assed. Imagine that.

Sweet Dick Willy 01-10-2010 12:44 AM

Revis, Flowers, Mays, and Berry as your secondary. Holy **** how awesome would that be?


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