Actually that was Dawkins. Tebow was just part of the prayer circle. Humility, man.

:LOL: There's really no other explanation.

I'm amazed that these NFL defenses can't stop these guys when everybody knows they can't throw the ball efficiently. It's crazy time in the NFL.

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Yeah. I'm sure teams will figure it out... but right now, it's just a hell of a lot different than anything they're used to dealing with.

I'd like to see a team try the spread offense in the NFL. (Was that basically what the Houston Oilers were doing under Glanville?)

Anyway, get creative. Mix it up. I like it. (I'd just rather it be someone other than the Donks doing it.)

There really isn't one in the AFC this year..maybe the Pats that is about it.

That's kind of sad to be irritated by someone just because of their beliefs. You're entitled to believe what you want, just like everyone in this world. Tebow isn't forcing his beliefs on anyone. He's expressing himself and his beliefs. There's nothing wrong with that. I'm happy for Tebow because of people like you that don't like the fact that someone wants to express themselves and their beliefs in this free, great country. And the fact that people want him to fail just because he's a Christian... What a messed up world.

The AFC is terrible. Nothing that happens the rest of the season is going to surprise me at this point.

Tebow bitches Crennel and Rex and consecutive weeks.

ah, I'm happy for Tebow (kneeling down).

How sweet.

The people that hate him are a little whacky. I don't hate him, I dont see how you could, he isn't a fake he is what he is as a person.

I still dont think he will be the answer at QB the way he plays it.

Don't hate him though. Hell he cracks me up. He is the ultimate underdog.

Cassel had a steak of like 22 TD's and 2 picks last year. That ended. He isn't the answer. I still don't see Tebow as the answer.

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I love how you say this just because the Chiefs suck... The AFC does not suck... The Chiefs suck

Did Tebow buy those?

I want him to fail cuz he's a bronco

Yeah ... I don't get the Christian hate. Would people pick on his faith if he were a Jew or one of those B'hai dudes?

What's the difference?

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Spot on :thumb:

Well, the teams they have played couldn't, but I don't see it lasting. It reminds me of Michael Vick when he was in Atlanta. Except Tebow is no where near the runner that Vick was then.

Pretty sure the AFCW is the only division that doesn't have a team in +net points.

That's the truth.

This Denver defense is pretty good, but when they come up against a real offense, thay won't be able to keep the game close enough for TeBow's miracle comebacks.

And that option read offense won't be able to score enough points to keep up.

Yep.

The AFC does suck. There is no dominant team(s) just a bunch of mediocre teams and 2 above average teams in the Pats and Steelers

No, I've said that all season since week 1. You can look it up. There be some terrible, terrible football being played in the NFL. The AFC is terrible. There's not a team that doesn't have a gaping flaw. Baltimore should be close but they lay an egg pretty much every week they don't play Pittsburgh.

Sweet! Can't wait to check out the Landing Strip implosion. ROFL

Can't say I'd ever want him as a QB in KC (well...maybe over that loser Cassel), but this is hilarious to watch. He's proving those haters wrong.

Me too. But this makes me happy to see someone keep on truckin' so to speak no matter what people say about you or how they attack you, whether it's personal or by his play.:thumb: He's a great role model.

Yeah, exactly.

I think you're right. Eventually, they'll start taking this seriously and put an end to it.

Either that, or everybody will start running some wacky version of the wildcat option. It's a copy-cat league, after all. If the Tebows keep winning, it'll drive the "trees" completely crazy.

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The problem is the parity in the NFL... It's not because the AFC sucks it's because the NFC has one dominant team and everybody thinks the AFC is suppose to have one too.

The deeper we get into the season, the more I understand what you've been saying, Mr. tk13.

Clearly, a lot of teams are struggling. I have to wonder if it's on account of the lockout.

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Keep in mind Sanchez gift wrapped a pick 6.

Sanchez like Cassel helped the Broncos all game long.

I personally think ALL the praying is a little weird. Maybe a little prayer not to get hurt or play a good game. Just over the top for me. However, Tebow obviously feels the power, so peace be with you , brother.

Not really.

He haasn't yet shown that he is an NFL QB.

Good point. I'd forgotten about that one.

The difference in the game.

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I find myself kinda rooting for the guy. We may be seeing big changes in the way teams play. Seems like they are playing wildcat the entire game.

I hate the Donx but I can't help rooting for this ****ing guy. It's like Doug Flutie and Rocky Balboa had a love child.

No, the quality of the football is below par. This was not anything close to pristine football tonight. Most likely it has something to do with the lockout, plus some injury issues (Manning), obviously. Maybe we'll see it come up a notch in the playoffs, I don't know.

In fact, what he has shown is that he really sucks at the QB position.

He has thrown some of the worst passes we've ever seen.

He is what everybody thought he was. A runningback.

It's pretty lame. I don't know if it's just the Christian thing though. He really is a good guy. He spent his Summer vacations in Third World countries helping orphans for ****'s sake. He was the Big Man On Campus for a major college and he's about as humble as he could be. He's taken huge amounts of shit for his beliefs and sticks by them. I think the haters are jealous of him honestly. Say what you will about his QB abilities. The kid is absolutely a work in progress. "Hate" him because he plays for a rival team, sure. But hating him as a person is just ignorant.

Did he pass for a 100 yards tonight?

Don't feel bad for Rex
he likes da feet

I don't know if the AFC is terrible, but the AFC West certainly is. The Broncos might only have to win 8 games.

Whatever he is, somewhere McDaniels is laughing his ass off.

The funny thing is that it took Fox to put an offense together that Tebow can run. Hell, if they can teach this guy to throw the ball, it's going to get nuts.

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He's winning games that people were sure his team would lose because of him. That's enough for me.

1/8 games with 10+ completions makes for a great QB!

Oh shit, Tebow's coming out to bless them with his presence.

ROFL

Football is a simple game. You matriculate the ball down the field.

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:thumb:

The only person in this thread that I think made some negative comment about it is Laz.

I respect him for his faith and for doing exactly what he's supposed to be doing.

The bible tells believers that they should spread the word.

Jets, you just got beat by a team who threw for 35 yards

The AFC is terrible not just the AFC West

Pitt, Baltimore, and Houston are pretty good (at least before the Schaub injury). And Tom Brady, I guess.

I think other teams are losing games.

Pitt is ok, Baltimore is schizo and Flacco has regressed, Houston is done and NE is probably the best of the bunch but they are very beatable.

I still think Pittsburg comes out of the AFC when it's all said and done.

I've seen a few posts that are directly criticizing him based on his faith.

It's sad, really. One of the cool things about Amerika (actually, one of the few cool things we really have remaining) is that a person has the right to believe what they want to believe. Yet, he's taking heat for his faith when there are plenty of other good reasons to criticize the guy for.

As mentioned earlier, I don't know if he would get the same kind of reaction if he were a Jew or a Muslim or one of those gown guys that hand out flowers at the airport. I hate to see that kind of shallow reaction, to be honest.

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You can't help but like the guy.... I like him because he loves Jesus and does not care who knows it....

Yeah, I wasn't trying to imply that the people in this thread were doing it. I was thinking more of the Tebow haters in general. For the record I'm agnostic and I still respect him for sticking to his beliefs. He reminds me of the Christians I grew up around that I have respect for.

At this point I think Green Bay beats any of the top AFC teams by 3 TD's

I don't think NE is the best of the bunch.

They have a pretty limited ground game, a terrible defense, and unless OchoCinco shows up, no one to stretch the defense.

The Ravens are inconsistent, and only really seem able to get up for the Steelers.

When you look at it, the Steelers are the most complete team in the AFC.

Run the ball, defense, and a big play clutch QB.

When Baltimore's D is motivated, I don't know. They might be able to make it close.

I really do think they have a good shot at 19-0. A better one than the Pats had in 07.

The funny thing is we make fun of the AFC West, but it actually has a winning record against the rest of the AFC. Not by much, but certainly better than most people would expect.

AFCW was weaker last year, the raiders swept the division and still didn't make the playoffs.

Whatever you call it, Tebow keeps finding himself on the winning side.

The Pats got as close as you can get without actually doing it. I mean, there's still a lot of games left.

Yeah you are probably right I forgot the Steelers beat the Pats just a couple of weeks ago. I really haven't been impressed with the Pats this year I just had put them at top because of Brady.

There's still a chance for someone in the AFC to get hot down the stretch and make a run. For the most part the league is sitting wide open for someone to get hot.

I wouldn't count those steelers out

Pitt will have to beat Baltimore to make the SB, though. They've done it before obviously, but they've been owned this season.

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I get that, but I don't think of this as the same kind of thing as Montana, Manning, Elway, type of thing.

Those guys had the kind of skills to keep teams in games, and make plays to win it.

TeBow is being kept in these games.

I agree. I really think the only team that could beat them at this point is the Saints because they have the offense to keep up.

Did you not see that play calling up to the very last drive of the game? Don't be blind. You aren't old enough yet.

I wouldn't either. If you held a gun to my head I'd probably pick them to get to the Super Bowl. But... it's far from a gimme, they still might have to end up playing every playoff game on the road, and then go through Baltimore @ BAL. Getting swept kills them in any tiebreakers.

When the playoffs roll around, I'd put my money on the Steelers.

I actually think the Bengals are going to win against the Ravens this week.

wow, Tebow is awesome.

So is the Broncos D.

Chris Harris leading the way.

You mean the playcalling that asked TeBow not to make too many throws, because he's a terrible passer?

I'm not religious myself, but I'm not gonna insult him because he is. Him praying was after his playing. It was the heart and drive to win that I like about him. I think he is paving a new way to play the game . Maybe the college way will be brought more to the NFL side of it. Definately pretty exiting. If the Chiefs can't take the division this year, I kinda hope Tebow represents the AFC west in the playoffs.


I kinda hope Palko has some Tebow drive in him.

Orton has to be thinking... "If only the defense had played like this in the first 5 games".