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FringeNC 01-04-2012 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8262918)
hacksaw1090Lee Hamilton


Czar.....KC rumor "Crennel to head coach with Josh McDaniels as coach in waiting if Rams let him go"

That's the most likely outcome. Pretty sure McDaniels could get out of St. Louis if he wanted to.

htismaqe 01-04-2012 01:59 PM

All KC would have to do is offer him the Asst HC job and he can leave STL because that's not considered a lateral move.

If the Chiefs want McDaniels, they can get him with or without STL's help.

htismaqe 01-04-2012 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 8261818)
He was OL coach at Iowa from 1999-2002, where he was national assistant coach of the year in 2002 before going to GB. He was OL coach under Kirk Ferentz, who is part of the coaching tree.

Yep.

I mentioned it before - Philbin is technically a member of one of the tree's "seedlings". Kind of like 6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon.

talastan 01-04-2012 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8262954)
All KC would have to do is offer him the Asst HC job and he can leave STL because that's not considered a lateral move.

If the Chiefs want McDaniels, they can get him with or without STL's help.

This is why I'm hoping that Pioli is looking for someone other than McDaniels.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-04-2012 02:02 PM

Rams interested in Bowles as head coach
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/footb...9bb30f31a.html

St. Louis Rams @stlramscom
Rams interested in Bowles as head coach


Is this good for McDaniels in terms of retaining his Job? Or would he have better luck remaining on the Team if Fisher was brought in?

Sounds like Fisher is leaning towards the fish....

FringeNC 01-04-2012 02:03 PM

McDaniels' problem to me is that he is the anti-Al Davis. Al Davis only cared about QB physical attributes, with McDaniels, and his hard-ons for Tebow and Cassel, he seems to attribute Brady's success to intangibles rather than intangibles + physical talent + mental talent. I wouldn't really have a problem with McDaniels if Cassel was jettisoned.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-04-2012 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8262954)
All KC would have to do is offer him the Asst HC job and he can leave STL because that's not considered a lateral move.

If the Chiefs want McDaniels, they can get him with or without STL's help.

Cant do that no more

evansilvaEvan Silva


RT @ChiefsandOsFan McDaniels to Chiefs as OC is lateral move, so can they add asst HC title to get him? ... No. They need him to be let go.

Frankie 01-04-2012 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royal Fanatic (Post 8261783)
It's nice to know that Pioli is at least looking at guys who aren't from the tree.

It's a front. He'll go tree.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8262973)
Sounds like Fisher is leaning towards the fish....

LOL. that would be the natural progression of things.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-05-2012 11:36 AM

What a boring ass day...

Jerm 01-05-2012 12:37 PM

@getnickwright: An infuriating #Chiefs coaching search update coming your way right at 2pm...

Hmmm wonder what this is about...

Mr_Tomahawk 01-05-2012 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 8266007)
@getnickwright: An infuriating #Chiefs coaching search update coming your way right at 2pm...

Hmmm wonder what this is about...

Probably a bunch of nonsense blown out of proportion which we already knew about...

"Pioli and Hunt are having trouble finding a candidate willing to maintain the current direction the team building is going. Candidates are wanting more player personnel control while Pioli is unwilling to give up said role..."

KC_Lee 01-05-2012 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 8266007)
@getnickwright: An infuriating #Chiefs coaching search update coming your way right at 2pm...

Hmmm wonder what this is about...


They are frustrated that every potential coach and / or OC wants to dump Cassel.

Frosty 01-05-2012 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 8266007)
@getnickwright: An infuriating #Chiefs coaching search update coming your way right at 2pm...

Hmmm wonder what this is about...

Ratings

Dexter Manley 01-05-2012 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8266019)
Probably a bunch of nonsense blown out of proportion which we already knew about...

"Pioli and Hunt are having trouble finding a candidate willing to maintain the current direction the team building is going. Candidates are wanting more player personnel control while Pioli is unwilling to give up said role..."


Sounds like Clark believes it was indeed all Haley's fault because of all the great draft picks and FA decisions made by Pioli...

The Franchise 01-05-2012 01:01 PM

If McDaniels is a part of this team.....I won't be watching.

O.city 01-05-2012 01:03 PM

You would think Hunt would get a hint when all these coaches come in and say no because the GM has all this power.

DTLB58 01-05-2012 01:27 PM

Thinking back....I think Lamar would have promoted Romeo. It's easy, everyone thinks it's the right thing to do and it just gives you that warm fuzzy feeling inside. But I think Clark is different. I still think he is the one that fired Haley, for better or worse and I think he looks at Romeo as to old and the short term answer. That's not what he's after. He wants what the Steelers have, longevity at the HC position. So I think he will look for an experienced yet, younger offensive mind and throw a few more bucks at Crennel to stay on as D.C.
If I were a KC columnist this would be my opinion other than everyone of them saying they are hiring Crennel and putting their pens down. Whatcha think?

HemiEd 01-05-2012 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 8266182)
Thinking back....I think Lamar would have promoted Romeo. It's easy, everyone thinks it's the right thing to do and it just gives you that warm fuzzy feeling inside. But I think Clark is different. I still think he is the one that fired Haley, for better or worse and I think he looks at Romeo as to old and the short term answer. That's not what he's after. He wants what the Steelers have, longevity at the HC position. So I think he will look for an experienced yet, younger offensive mind and throw a few more bucks at Crennel to stay on as D.C.
If I were a KC columnist this would be my opinion other than everyone of them saying they are hiring Crennel and putting their pens down. Whatcha think?

Good opinion as any.

But on the other hand, I have a feeling that Haley's actions towards the end, may have Clark pining for a little more maturity representing his franchise.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-05-2012 01:35 PM

getnickwright nick wright
An infuriating # Chiefs coaching search update coming your way right at 2pm...

Coogs 01-05-2012 02:05 PM

It's 2:05. Should I be breaking things yet?

Mr. Arrowhead 01-05-2012 02:06 PM

it must not be that bad, he opening up with the basketball game last night

Rooster 01-05-2012 02:06 PM

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

The Franchise 01-05-2012 02:07 PM

So....what's the infuriating news?

Frosty 01-05-2012 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8266294)
It's 2:05. Should I be breaking things yet?

He'll tell you at the end of the show.

Brock 01-05-2012 02:07 PM

Ha ha, he got you.

bevischief 01-05-2012 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8266294)
It's 2:05. Should I be breaking things yet?

nope. haven't missed a thing.

ChiefsCountry 01-05-2012 02:09 PM

Nick Wright talking Queer Kansas basketball.

Coogs 01-05-2012 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 8266007)
@getnickwright: An infuriating #Chiefs coaching search update coming your way right at 2pm...

Hmmm wonder what this is about...

So false advertising then?

bevischief 01-05-2012 02:33 PM

After the break is the big update...

KC_Lee 01-05-2012 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 8266423)
After the break is the big update...

:popcorn:

FlaChief58 01-05-2012 02:53 PM

http://youtu.be/hWJX9yUKJeQ

crazycoffey 01-05-2012 02:55 PM

yes we are

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-05-2012 08:58 PM

realfreemancbsmike freeman

I'm told Jeff Fisher believes he'll have made a choice by early next week. I'm also told there's a surprise team entering the mix.

okcchief 01-05-2012 09:06 PM

What was the news? Del Rio?

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-05-2012 09:30 PM

AlbertBreerAlbert Breer


I'd say a better chance now, by the way, that McDaniels lands in KC than New England. But Chiefs need to sort out who's head coach first.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-05-2012 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8267588)
AlbertBreerAlbert Breer


I'd say a better chance now, by the way, that McDaniels lands in KC than New England. But Chiefs need to sort out who's head coach first.

beat me ;)

O.city 01-05-2012 09:34 PM

**** me.


I'm getting pretty damn tired of Patriots West.


That franchise is gonna crumble in 3or 4 years when Tom Brady retires.

They will have a shitty ass defense and a shitty ass offense.

And the Chiefs will be where we have always been. I'd like to trade Pioli back to NE and let him go down with BB and that burning sinking ship.

Okie_Apparition 01-05-2012 10:32 PM

Fisher will sign with whoever will make a push for Peyton
& pay him the most

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-05-2012 10:34 PM

damSchefterAdam Schefter

Raiders now plan to hire Packers director of football operations Reggie McKenzie as their next general manager.

O.city 01-05-2012 10:35 PM

Is that good or bad?

Okie_Apparition 01-05-2012 10:37 PM

How's he going to stop the penalties

Frankie 01-05-2012 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8267477)
realfreemancbsmike freeman

I'm told Jeff Fisher believes he'll have made a choice by early next week. I'm also told there's a surprise team entering the mix.

Hopefully it's not us.

RustShack 01-05-2012 10:52 PM

I don't think we would be a surprise team entering the mix since we already interviewed him.

Frankie 01-05-2012 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 8267763)
I don't think we would be a surprise team entering the mix since we already interviewed him.

He was talking about Fisher, not Philbin.

RustShack 01-05-2012 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 8267767)
He was talking about Fisher, not Philbin.

Also who I was talking about.

Frankie 01-05-2012 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 8267769)
Also who I was talking about.

So we interviewed Fisher? When?

Brock 01-05-2012 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 8267772)
So we interviewed Fisher? When?

Supposedly last week.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-05-2012 11:16 PM

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/e...75988/34211956

...Kansas City has also interviewed Packers offensive coordinator Joe Philbin are are reportedly interested in speaking with Falcons' OC Mike Mularky.

Simply Red 01-05-2012 11:18 PM

Vermeil/Green?

FloridaMan88 01-06-2012 12:33 AM

The Chiefs could do a lot worse (cough cough Romeo, Del Rio) than Mularkey.

BigMeatballDave 01-06-2012 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8267925)
The Chiefs could do a lot worse (cough cough Romeo, Del Rio) than Mularkey.

Dude, none of this ****ing matters if Matt Cassel is still stinking up Arrowhead.

RealSNR 01-06-2012 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8267976)
Dude, none of this ****ing matters if Matt Cassel is still stinking up Arrowhead.

Cassel... Losman... what's the difference?

2004 Bills here we come!

Dylan 01-06-2012 01:30 AM

Fishers win % 8.3 wins a season

FRCDFED 01-06-2012 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8267803)
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/e...75988/34211956

...Kansas City has also interviewed Packers offensive coordinator Joe Philbin are are reportedly interested in speaking with Falcons' OC Mike Mularky.

Philbin/QB Flinn?

talastan 01-06-2012 08:38 AM

Mularky please!!!! :drool:

Frankie 01-06-2012 12:18 PM

It's funny how when we have a HC every poster is a philosopher about how "great coordinators" don't equate "great head coaches." Norv Turner, Wade Phillips, and many others are sited as examples.

Yet, as soon as we need a HC all ex coordinators who have already failed as HCs become the object of Planeteers' desire.

I'm still on the Band wagon for fresh new coaches. The reason I am accepting the Romeo scenario is that, save for Clements, I don't see any young up and comer this year and I consider the Crennel hire a temporary stopgap one until some young gun appears on the scene.

The Franchise 01-06-2012 12:21 PM

Maybe someone knows the answer.

If I remember correctly.....RAC has 1 year left on his contract. Can they promote him to HC without giving him a new contract or extension?

bevischief 01-06-2012 01:24 PM

Rams have told Josh McDaniels they won't hold him to his contract. If he wants to leave, they'll let him.

Peter King (si_peterking) on Twitter

Chiefnj2 01-06-2012 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8268778)
Maybe someone knows the answer.

If I remember correctly.....RAC has 1 year left on his contract. Can they promote him to HC without giving him a new contract or extension?

Probably only if he agrees to it.

HemiEd 01-06-2012 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 8268938)
Rams have told Josh McDaniels they won't hold him to his contract. If he wants to leave, they'll let him.

Peter King (si_peterking) on Twitter

That is great news, at least our 4th round pick is safe for now.

bevischief 01-06-2012 01:34 PM

Any breaking news that Nick Wright has for today's show?

HemiEd 01-06-2012 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 8268978)
Any breaking news that Nick Wright has for today's show?

Nick Wright: Clark Hunt and Scott Pioli are feuding at 1 Arrowhead drive. Pioli wants to hire McDoush before BB does and Clark won't let him.

O.city 01-06-2012 01:41 PM

Maybe they are fueding.

Guess who wins out on that fued?

KC_Lee 01-06-2012 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8269008)
Maybe they are fueding.

Guess who wins out on that fued?

The one who signs the checks.

FringeNC 01-06-2012 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 8268994)
Nick Wright: Clark Hunt and Scott Pioli are feuding at 1 Arrowhead drive. Pioli wants to hire McDoush before BB does and Clark won't let him.

as OC or HC? If it's as OC, and Clark won't let him, then this whole thing needs to be blown up.

O.city 01-06-2012 02:00 PM

If it comes down to them fueding over Mcd and Cassel, do the right thing Clark.

Kick his ass to the curb.

HemiEd 01-06-2012 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 8268978)
Any breaking news that Nick Wright has for today's show?

If I am hearing him right, he is guaranteeing that RC will be the HC and Del Rio is not.
Josh McDaniels is the OC. NE has complicated it with the Penn State deal. (But Pioli can offer the future HC position after RC retires)

Tom Brady has gotten a lot of people jobs. (Very True!)

whoman69 01-06-2012 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8268778)
Maybe someone knows the answer.

If I remember correctly.....RAC has 1 year left on his contract. Can they promote him to HC without giving him a new contract or extension?

You have to have a contract for an HC. The league does not consider it a promotion to go from a position coach to a coordinator, but it is a promotion to go to HC. I'm guessing that's so teams can lock up a position coach under contract.

bevischief 01-06-2012 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8269093)
You have to have a contract for an HC. The league does not consider it a promotion to go from a position coach to a coordinator, but it is a promotion to go to HC. I'm guessing that's so teams can lock up a position coach under contract.

Rams have said they will let him go he wants to leave.

Joe Seahawk 01-06-2012 02:13 PM

Steve Sarkisian apparently turned down an interview with the Rams..


https://twitter.com/#!/BFeldmanCBS/s...46740269158403

Frankie 01-06-2012 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8269093)
The league does not consider it a promotion to go from a position coach to a coordinator, but it is a promotion to go to HC.

Are you sure? This doesn't make sense at all.

ChiefsOne 01-06-2012 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8269008)
Maybe they are fueding.

Guess who wins out on that fued?

I think that is feud. Glad you're not majoring in English or Literature!

O.city 01-06-2012 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsOne (Post 8269436)
I think that is feud. Glad you're not majoring in English or Literature!

Pardon me.

Brock 01-06-2012 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 8269107)
Are you sure? This doesn't make sense at all.

That's true. Teams are not required to grant permission for interviews unless it's for a head coaching job.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-07-2012 10:35 AM

Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Tony Sparano and Todd Haley have discussed joining forces in 2012 with Sparano coaching run game, Haley pass game, as they did in Dallas.

SAUTO 01-07-2012 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8271038)
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Tony Sparano and Todd Haley have discussed joining forces in 2012 with Sparano coaching run game, Haley pass game, as they did in Dallas.

where?

Mr_Tomahawk 01-07-2012 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 8271083)
where?

Duno...

SAUTO 01-07-2012 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8271085)
Duno...

oh ok. thought i had missed something.

why discuss it if they didnt know some team might be interested?


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