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Titty Meat 11-10-2012 03:02 PM
USC Football News ‏@USCFootballNews
#USC QB Matt Barkley trails only Carson Palmer on the Pac-12 career passing yard list. Another 15 yards and the record is his.

Titty Meat 11-10-2012 03:03 PM
Picked

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-10-2012 03:03 PM
Awful pick 6 throw by Barkley

Mr_Tomahawk 11-10-2012 03:05 PM
So how long of a pass was the 80yrd TD reception?

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-10-2012 03:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9103757)
So how long of a pass was the 80yrd TD reception?
About 30 yards perfect fade man Barkley another pick.

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-10-2012 03:16 PM
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/video?gameId=323150030


Here is the TD

RealSNR 11-10-2012 03:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9100704)
Let other teams make the mistake and then trade up when there is a legit prospect.
OH THANX ALL WE GOTTA DO IS TRADE UP AND GRAB THE GUD QB WHEN HE SHOWS UP TANKS NOMO ITS AS SIMPLE AS THAT Y DIDN ANY OF US THINK OF THAT?????????????????

Shut the **** up. Peyton Manning deserves to break his ****ing neck and die right now. Then you can put all of your brilliant QB-drafting philosophies into action to prove us wrong.

****ing moron.

The Bad Guy 11-10-2012 03:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9100704)
What if you draft a dud this year and then next year a legit prospect is sitting there for you? You aren't going to give up on a guy you picked in the top 5 after one season.

If Denver would have drafted Gabbert at #2 last year we wouldn't have gone after Peyton Manning.

I think you should just draft the best player available no matter what. You don't think the Rams knew that RG3 was a better player than Bradford? They were stuck with Bradford and were forced to trade the pick. Let other teams make the mistake and then trade up when there is a legit prospect.
And the best player available in April generally isn't the same in September unless your name is Andrew Luck.

Titty Meat 11-10-2012 04:16 PM
3 picks. wow.


The critics were right.

Mr. Laz 11-10-2012 04:18 PM
is it "Blow4Barkley" or "BarkleyJustBlows"?

The Bad Guy 11-10-2012 04:20 PM
Further proof that god hates us.

No good QB at the top of this draft. Should have lost games last year to Indy, San Diego. Should have never beaten Green Bay, Denver.

It's just fitting we are going to have the #1 pick and end up with someone who would be picked in the 20s most years.

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-10-2012 04:32 PM
Nice drive by Barkley TD USC

ILChief 11-10-2012 04:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9103919)
Further proof that god hates us.

No good QB at the top of this draft. Should have lost games last year to Indy, San Diego. Should have never beaten Green Bay, Denver.

It's just fitting we are going to have the #1 pick and end up with someone who would be picked in the 20s most years.
Barkley would have been picked pretty high last year too. Miami would have taken him instead of Tannehill probably.

Nightfyre 11-10-2012 04:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9103951)
Barkley would have been picked pretty high last year too. Miami would have taken him instead of Tannehill probably.
I frankly doubt that given Tannehill's connection to the coaching staff

The Bad Guy 11-10-2012 04:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9103951)
Barkley would have been picked pretty high last year too. Miami would have taken him instead of Tannehill probably.
Have my doubts. Sherman loved Tannehill.

Mr. Laz 11-10-2012 04:58 PM
chicken or the egg .... Marquis Lee or Matt Barkley?

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-10-2012 05:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9103992)
chicken or the egg .... Marquis Lee or Matt Barkley?
Ask you Bailey-Austin or Smith ?

Mr_Tomahawk 11-10-2012 05:03 PM
My turn:

Tyler Wilson or...Tyler Wilson?

O.city 11-10-2012 05:03 PM
Uh Hamilton ?

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-11-2012 04:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9103919)
Further proof that god hates us.

No good QB at the top of this draft. Should have lost games last year to Indy, San Diego. Should have never beaten Green Bay, Denver.

It's just fitting we are going to have the #1 pick and end up with someone who would be picked in the 20s most years.
There's no Andrew Luck, but let's not be hasty.

TribalElder 11-11-2012 04:41 PM
Our Luck

Jarvis Jones and a late round QB

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-11-2012 04:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 9106837)
Our Luck

Jarvis Jones and a late round QB
If Pioli still has a job in KC, it WILL be a cluster****, and ALL hope will be gone.

Mr. Laz 11-11-2012 05:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9103996)
Ask you Bailey-Austin or Smith ?
absolutely and viable question

Is Smith worth a shit without Austin?

Is Barkley worth a shit without Lee?


makes a big difference on their draft value.

HoneyBadger 11-15-2012 12:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9103992)
chicken or the egg .... Marquis Lee or Matt Barkley?
Matt was pretty good when he only had Robert Woods.

DaWolf 11-15-2012 11:06 PM
From the LA Times:

Quote:
Scout 1 on Barkley: "He's got a very good understanding of the game, and he's a great leader. Physically, he's very average. When he's throwing it across the field on a deep out, the ball sort of hangs in the air. He doesn't have that ability to just drive it. In the NFL, with the corners, they break so much quicker. They see it quicker, they close. A lot of those balls are going the other direction at the next level."

Scout 2 on Barkley: "He's got to be a decision-making, timing passer. That's kind of his game. When he's in rhythm, and he's making good decisions, which a lot of times he's good to very good, he can have success. If a play breaks down, or there's pressure, he's not going to be the kind of quarterback to improvise or make an athletic play."
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/nov...pects-20121114

Titty Meat 11-15-2012 11:17 PM
#2 sounds like Peyton Manning

BossChief 11-15-2012 11:27 PM
Actually, both scouts takes remind me of Peyton (current version) or Matt Ryan.

DaWolf 11-15-2012 11:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9122406)
Actually, both scouts takes remind me of Peyton (current version) or Matt Ryan.
Yeah, the key to Barkley will be what is his work ethic, and how quick is his decision making and release. If he has good field vision and can get rid of the ball he'll be fine. But if he hesitates and takes too long to get rid of it, it's not going to be pretty at this level. I haven't watched him enough against good defenses to be able to tell either way...

Sorter 11-16-2012 01:02 AM
As much as I like all 3 of the prospects, none have really done what Ran did his senior year IMO

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ShowtimeSBMVP 11-17-2012 12:00 PM
Barkley has a big game today at 3pm

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-17-2012 02:06 PM
Barkley ball first here we go

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-17-2012 02:07 PM
Wow Pick first play

Hammock Parties 11-17-2012 02:07 PM
Yeah, no thanks.

DBOSHO 11-17-2012 02:08 PM
Yeah............i think im good.....

BossChief 11-17-2012 02:08 PM
Terrible throw.

PRIEST 11-17-2012 02:09 PM
Damn pick mark castle 7 & all lol

ILChief 11-17-2012 02:10 PM
I guess it's Wilson this week

The Franchise 11-17-2012 02:12 PM
Would Barkley be a better fit in a WCO?

Titty Meat 11-17-2012 02:20 PM
I want to see the Barkley INT. Kiffin has him throw a lot of stupid quick passes at the line that get picked because he's too small.

RunKC 11-17-2012 02:25 PM
With little need for a QB by most teams combined with the way these slapdicks are playing I would bet my house that we could take BPA at #1 and then trade back into the first round around the 18-25th pick and more than one of the top 3 QB's will still be there.

ILChief 11-17-2012 02:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9125274)
With little need for a QB by most teams combined with the way these slapdicks are playing I would bet my house that we could take BPA at #1 and then trade back into the first round around the 18-25th pick and more than one of the top 3 QB's will still be there.
I don't want to risk trading down. Rank the QBs and take the best available one that's available at 1,2,3 or whenever our pick is

Three7s 11-17-2012 02:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9125274)
With little need for a QB by most teams combined with the way these slapdicks are playing I would bet my house that we could take BPA at #1 and then trade back into the first round around the 18-25th pick and more than one of the top 3 QB's will still be there.
No

Mr_Tomahawk 11-17-2012 02:39 PM
A 4 year starter from USC should be better than Barkley. Plain and simple. Pass.

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-17-2012 02:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9125303)
A 4 year starter from USC should be better than Barkley. Plain and simple. Pass.
Josh Liskiewitz ‏@JoshLiskiewitz

A four year starter from USC should be significantly better than Barkley is right now, plain and simple.


Just Post the tweet next time.

Mr_Tomahawk 11-17-2012 02:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9125306)
Josh Liskiewitz ‏@JoshLiskiewitz

A four year starter from USC should be significantly better than Barkley is right now, plain and simple.


Just Post the tweet next time.
On my phone. Cant. Thanks tho.

RunKC 11-17-2012 02:44 PM
Any bets that Matt Barkley takes an Aaron Rodgers like fall in April? Unimpressive physical skills and horrible games=bad news.

I can see Barkley falling to around the 20th pick.

DaneMcCloud 11-17-2012 02:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9125237)
Would Barkley be a better fit in a WCO?
Yes.

Kiffin sucks. He's a goner.

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-17-2012 02:46 PM
Lane needs to fire his Dad that D is just flat out awful.

DaneMcCloud 11-17-2012 02:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9125312)
Any bets that Matt Barkley takes an Aaron Rodgers like fall in April? Unimpressive physical skills and horrible games=bad news.

I can see Barkley falling to around the 20th pick.
Because of one ****ing game out of 50?

JFC, you people are ****ing dumb.

If he falls out of the Top Five, it'll be because of something that happens during his Pro Day or at the Combine, not because Lane Kiffin sucks ass and everyone knows it.

DaneMcCloud 11-17-2012 02:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9125307)
On my phone. Cant. Thanks tho.
Bleacher Report?

LMAO

What did Andy Samberg have to say about him? I trust him more than the ****ing Bleacher Report.

ROFL

Mr_Tomahawk 11-17-2012 02:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9125318)
Bleacher Report?

LMAO

What did Andy Samberg have to say about him? I trust him more than the ****ing Bleacher Report.

ROFL
Sorry for hurting your vagina.

DaneMcCloud 11-17-2012 02:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9125320)
Sorry for hurting your vagina.
WTF?

JFC, are you another in a long line of dumbasses here? I know you're avatar is ****ing stupid.

Are you ****ing stupid as well?

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-17-2012 02:48 PM
USC WR ARE getting jammed at the line first time all year and they're losing vs UCLA DB'S

RealSNR 11-17-2012 02:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9125274)
With little need for a QB by most teams combined with the way these slapdicks are playing I would bet my house that we could take BPA at #1 and then trade back into the first round around the 18-25th pick and more than one of the top 3 QB's will still be there.
Incorrect. **** you.

Teams picking in the top 10 who need a QB:

Chiefs
Jaguars
Browns
Bills
Jets
Eagles
Raiders

The Jaguars and Browns (and Raiders and Eagles, kinda) already have their "franchise guy" but that should not stop any team from drafting a franchise QB if one is available.

From 10-20 you have Arizona who is ravenously hungry for a franchise starter as well as teams like Tennessee, New Orleans, and Dallas who either have aging starters who will soon need to be replaced or they're getting kind of frustrated with their current guy.

RunKC 11-17-2012 02:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9125316)
Because of one ****ing game out of 50?

JFC, you people are ****ing dumb.

If he falls out of the Top Five, it'll be because of something that happens during his Pro Day or at the Combine, not because Lane Kiffin sucks ass and everyone knows it.
He's had a handful of horrible games and horrible moments all year long. Wasted opportunities.

Do you not watch any USC games? Jesus man open your ****ing eyes.

DaneMcCloud 11-17-2012 02:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9125324)
USC WR ARE getting jammed at the line first time all year and they are losing vs UCLA DB'S
UCLA was going to win this game, hands down.

First off, Mora's a MUCH better coach than Lane Kiffin has ever dreamed of being, the USC defense sucks and Monte has them playing against their strengths and everyone knows that Kiffen will be fired at the end of the season.

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-17-2012 02:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9125330)
UCLA was going to win this game, hands down.

First off, Mora's a MUCH better coach than Lane Kiffin has ever dreamed of being, the USC defense sucks and Monte has them playing against their strengths and everyone knows that Kiffen will be fired at the end of the season.
Agree 100%

DaneMcCloud 11-17-2012 02:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9125327)
He's had a handful of horrible games and horrible moments all year long. Wasted opportunities.

Do you not watch any USC games? Jesus man open your ****ing eyes.
Just **** off.

If you've watched USC this year, the reason that Barkley (and the team in general) has struggled is because of Lane Kiffin and his father.

Terrible playcalling on both sides of the ball, period.

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-17-2012 02:54 PM
That was a nice pass by Barkley

Coach 11-17-2012 02:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9125336)
Just **** off.

If you've watched USC this year, the reason that Barkley (and the team in general) has struggled is because of Lane Kiffin and his father.

Terrible playcalling on both sides of the ball, period.
I will admit that I know nothing of USC or anything, just my experience watching Barkley have been not very good.

However, I cannot determine if it was either shitty/shoddy coaching or incorrect scheme.

For instance, Josh Freeman would be a good example at this. He was OK at K-State but inconsistent, but had the build for a NFL QB. Of course, everyone in K-State knew that Ron Prince and his offensive staff was a bunch of morons and couldn't coach up worth a shit.

Look at Freeman now in the NFL, and he's having a fine season and career so far.

Mr_Tomahawk 11-17-2012 02:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9125323)
WTF?

JFC, are you another in a long line of dumbasses here? I know you're avatar is ****ing stupid.

Are you ****ing stupid as well?
Why didn't you use "OMG" in your post along with the "WTF", and "JFC"? It's another acronym that prepubescent girls like to use...

RealSNR 11-17-2012 02:55 PM
See, I was told by the anti-Geno fans that having a terrible coach who doesn't know what the **** he's doing is no excuse for your QB to put up mediocre numbers against pretty good defenses who have your bullshit offensive attack 100% figured out.

All three guys appear to be suffering from the same thing. Which is why I think all three guys will light up their pro days/senior bowl/whatever other workouts they run, and all three will go in the top 5.

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-17-2012 02:56 PM
Lane is a dumbass running on 3rd and 5

RunKC 11-17-2012 02:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9125344)
See, I was told by the anti-Geno fans that having a terrible coach who doesn't know what the **** he's doing is no excuse for your QB to put up mediocre numbers against pretty good defenses who have your bullshit offensive attack 100% figured out.

All three guys appear to be suffering from the same thing. Which is why I think all three guys will light up their pro days/senior bowl/whatever other workouts they run, and all three will go in the top 5.
Geno isn't throwing pick sixes and he's stepping up when his team needs him too.

Geno has proven that he can take care of the football and be there to lift his team up. Can't say the same for Barkley.

DaneMcCloud 11-17-2012 02:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9125343)
Why didn't you use "OMG" in your post along with the "WTF", and "JFC"? It's another acronym that prepubescent girls like to use...
Why don't you go **** your mom?

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-17-2012 02:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9125351)
Geno isn't throwing pick sixes and he's stepping up when his team needs him too.

Geno has proven that he can take care of the football and be there to lift his team up. Can't say the same for Barkley.
USC 7-3
WV- 5-4


Just saying

DaneMcCloud 11-17-2012 03:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9125344)
See, I was told by the anti-Geno fans that having a terrible coach who doesn't know what the **** he's doing is no excuse for your QB to put up mediocre numbers against pretty good defenses who have your bullshit offensive attack 100% figured out.

All three guys appear to be suffering from the same thing. Which is why I think all three guys will light up their pro days/senior bowl/whatever other workouts they run, and all three will go in the top 5.
I don't know about Wilson but as I've said all season long, both Smith and Barkley are perfect WCO QB's.

And both are poorly coached. Barkley's taken a step backward this season, as has the entire team, and that's completely on the shoulders of the Kiffin's.

Titty Meat 11-17-2012 03:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach (Post 9125342)
I will admit that I know nothing of USC or anything, just my experience watching Barkley have been not very good.

However, I cannot determine if it was either shitty/shoddy coaching or incorrect scheme.

For instance, Josh Freeman would be a good example at this. He was OK at K-State but inconsistent, but had the build for a NFL QB. Of course, everyone in K-State knew that Ron Prince and his offensive staff was a bunch of morons and couldn't coach up worth a shit.

Look at Freeman now in the NFL, and he's having a fine season and career so far.
Yeah but Freeman has all the tools. Team scouts are going to have to figure out why Barkley's INT numbers have been so high this season.

RealSNR 11-17-2012 03:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9125355)
USC 7-3
WV- 5-4


Just saying
:facepalm:

RunKC 11-17-2012 03:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9125355)
USC 7-3
WV- 5-4


Just saying
USC has talented players all over the place you dumbass.

WVU has Geno, Austin and Bailey and that's it.

So hey I guess by this reasoning Vince Young was gonna be better than Jay Cutler because his team was better. God you're ****ing stupid.

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-17-2012 03:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9125362)
:facepalm:
Pac 12 > Big 12 Both teams have no D

In58men 11-17-2012 03:02 PM
Told you guys Barkley sucks.

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-17-2012 03:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9125364)
USC has talented players all over the place you dumbass.

WVU has Geno, Austin and Bailey and that's it.

So hey I guess by this reasoning Vince Young was gonna be better than Jay Cutler because his team was better. God you're ****ing stupid.
So dumb.

Coach 11-17-2012 03:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9125360)
Yeah but Freeman has all the tools. Team scouts are going to have to figure out why Barkley's INT numbers have been so high this season.
Which is why I asked Dane if it was either ineffective/poor coaching or poor scheming.

It just (I am being totally honest about this) so far with my experiences of watching Barkley, it really haven't "impressed" me too much.

Mr_Tomahawk 11-17-2012 03:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9125353)
Why don't you go **** your mom?
Wow.

Thatnk you...I got a good laugh.

Are you 12 years old?

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-17-2012 03:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9125371)
Told you guys Barkley sucks.
Have you watch this game? Usc WR cant beat the Jam not on Barkley at all.

Coach 11-17-2012 03:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9125367)
Pac 12 > Big 12 Both teams have no D
Incorrect answer. Try again.

RealSNR 11-17-2012 03:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9125367)
Pac 12 > Big 12 Both teams have no D
Okay, let's look at 2011:

Ok State: One loss
Stanford: Three losses

Last year Big XII = Pac 12

Brandon Weeden > Andrew Luck

NJChiefsFan 11-17-2012 03:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9125377)
Have you watch this game? Usc WR cant beat the Jam not on Barkley at all.
By this logic how can you use a teams record as an argument against another QB? Seems like the same argument at its core.

Titty Meat 11-17-2012 03:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach (Post 9125374)
Which is why I asked Dane if it was either ineffective/poor coaching or poor scheming.

It just (I am being totally honest about this) so far with my experiences of watching Barkley, it really haven't "impressed" me too much.
I've watched a lot of USC games this year. Like I said i've noticed Kiffin insists on these quick passes at the LOS but Barkley is too small and a lot of them get picked. He's also thrown some picks this year where you say WTF? He's looked brilliant at times though with more than adequate arm strength which was a knock on him previously. The guy plays huge in big games too.


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